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Chris Wilson

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Some nice welding there Chris.. What are you planning to do with this Skyline when it's complete? (not that these kind of projects are ever truly complete) Beat the pants of everything in the 2006 season? You must have a target in mind.

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It will be used as a track day fun car. I'll keep it road legal, I want to be able to drive it up the road to Oulton Park, and to Donington and Pembrey, I am getting sick of trailering and mauling the racecar about on track days, getting too old for that! Had noise issues with the Zeus, too :( That reminds me, need to make a new (baffled..) silencer for it.

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You mean the cut out? It's to clear the oil squirter jets. they squirt cooling oil up under the pistons, into a hole, and into and through a hollow chamber under the crwn. The oil then comes out of another hole. That's why the pistons are so damned expensive, the forging is trick to get the hollow chamber. Easy with cast ones though.

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The cutouts at the bottom of the 3rd ring groove, are they to feed this squirted oil onto the oil scraper ring to cool it or are they to channel scraped oil into the piston?

 

-Ian

 

PS I hate you for building such a monster for a track day fun car :p

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No, most / all pistons have holes or slots here, it's to allow the dual rail 3rd ring to deposit scraped off bore oil back inside the piston and into the sump. That's why nearly all oil rings have in effect 2 rails, either totally seperate with a wavy spacer rail, or cast, but with a relieved cut back section between the parts that conatct the bore, to mimic 2 rings.

 

Some ultra trick full race 4 stroke pistons have only 2 rings, lots of 2 strokes only 1.

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You mean the cut out? It's to clear the oil squirter jets. they squirt cooling oil up under the pistons, into a hole, and into and through a hollow chamber under the crwn. The oil then comes out of another hole. That's why the pistons are so damned expensive, the forging is trick to get the hollow chamber. Easy with cast ones though.

 

Very trick.

Have you got any shots of the squiters? (Potentially opening this thread up to a torrent of filth!)

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  • 1 month later...

Been really busy with race cars and Supras, but finally my new block is on the engine stand and I am about to commence building the thing :ecstatic:

 

The block is bored and honed to each individual piston, first job is de burr it and modify the oilways which could stand improvement from some careful rotary filing. I am thinking of re enginering the huge and bulky Nissan oil filter and oil cooler (oil to water heat exchanger under the inlet manifold) to something a lot lighter, simpler and neater. I am going to be using either a simple oil to air cooler or maybe a Scandinavian oil to water heat exchanger I have, depends on the logistics of where i can mount a 40 plus row oil cooler.

 

Then it's a dry build of crank, pistons and rods to measure bearing clearnaces and piston deck heights. The pistons may well need machining to drop the compression a bit. The bearings are all avaialble in selective sizes for the Skyline, so it's out with the Plastigauge to check the actual dry build running clearances of mains and big ends. All rotating parts are dynamically balanced, so then the short motor can be built up and I'll start on porting the head.

I'll take pics and put them on my site. Whats's the simplest app to use to put text on digiatl photos, with arrows, maybe?

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Short of a bit of fettling, a quick bead blasting and a thorough cleaning I have finished hacking off the front diff from an RB26 cast alloy sump with a Trust sump extension to go on my RB26 engined R33 GTS-t. I wanted a cast sump as it ties in the block and gearbox more rigidly, adds rigidity to the bottom of the block, aids oil cooling and allows known and tested commercial bafling to be used. All preferable to the admittedly lighter pressed tin RB25DET sump pan normally found in an R33 GTS-t. I also removed the front driveshaft tube and bearing housings, welding up the resultant holes with alloy plugs.

 

An original sump with the diff still attached is in the original_sump file, on a customer engine i rebuilt a bit ago, as a comparison. (poor picture, I should have photo'd the sump before attacking it...) It was quite a time consuming and `orrible job actually!

 

Pics Here

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Crank bearings now selected, I fitted small size one (GTR crank main and rod bearings are available in 6 tolerance sizes so one can get clearances absolutely spot on). I use Plastiguage to check small clearances, it's a thread of plastic about 3 thou inch thick, that you put on the journal you wish to ceck the clearance of. Then you torque up all the caps, or the girdle in this case, strip again, and the width that the bearings have sqashed the threads too can be measured. This width is the bearing clearance, measured against a scale. i aimed for 0.0015 to 0.0018 thousandths of inch, and managed to get them all spot on with some fiddling. Need to check the rod bearings next, but work is interfering again!

PICS HERE

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Crank girdle studs (£350 for 14 studs and nuts, Jeez...) are in, crank bearings are now clearanced and finally assembled, crank is in and torqued, water and oil pumps (N1 race water pump, Tomei (high capacity, adjustable pressure) oil pump is on. Next job is piston deck heights an machining the pistons to get my desired compression ratio. Note the oil squirters to cool the hollow piston crowns in one or two of the photos. These make a big difference to piston cooling, the Supra has these too, although not thehollow piston crowns.

 

[/url]PICS HERE

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I would buy a DVD with such a project on it :)

 

Like a DIY guide to engine building...

 

 

Same here, infact Id be your happy little helper if I lived nearby...

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