Thorin Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 looks like "TT killer" is selling up, still he spent 25k on his "one of a kind" N/A and managed to get it to 310 bhp http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13483 Still no proof of this 310bhp then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BANDIT1 Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 And leaving the jap seen oh well!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted October 19, 2009 Share Posted October 19, 2009 looks like "TT killer" is selling up, still he spent 25k on his "one of a kind" N/A and managed to get it to 310 bhp http://www.mkivsupraownersclub.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13483 Seems a shame to have spent so much on the car and not bothered to sped a couple of hundred on some new headlights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Still no proof of this 310bhp then? no and the spec list looks no different to when he was claiming 260hp, perhaps the secret to all that extra power is the GTR33 O2 sensor , bet the Toyota designers are kicking themselves for not thinking of that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinlexusV8 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 (edited) I would say 2UR-GSE from the new 5.0 V8 Lexus ISF (300KW out of the box) + Add a supercharger on the top of that, you will be laughing Also the tranny for this is an 8 Speed Automatic with good fuel efficient http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_UR_engine The following image is from wikipedia Attachment is from the rollaclub Edited October 20, 2009 by edinlexusV8 (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vase Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Twin turbo V10 gallardos are very fast in the states these days so maybe it would be nice to have something similar in a supra? Not sure what the differences are between the audi S6 V10 engine and the gallardo engine but an audi V10 isn't that expensive anymore. Then of course there is the mighty bmw V10 engine found in the M5 and M6. Fitment might be a problem though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted October 20, 2009 Share Posted October 20, 2009 Well there's always a V12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 If the SRT-10 Engine can fit i think that would be awesome. Something i would seriously consider. The 8.3L block(only 500 pounds) from the 03-06 Models are lighter then the Supes Engine i thought? 525 ft. pounds of torque straight on tap would be damn sweet. Supercharge them and you are laughing. Someone tell me they would fit so i can buy the engine and tran setup im watching on Ebay.. I'd like a V10 in a Supe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandiaerbest Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 A V12 should fit, right? Top Secret in japan made a V12 Supra, the gold one with the evolution kai kit. so if a V12 fits why shouldn't a V10 fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 If the SRT-10 Engine can fit i think that would be awesome. Something i would seriously consider. The 8.3L block(only 500 pounds) from the 03-06 Models are lighter then the Supes Engine i thought? 525 ft. pounds of torque straight on tap would be damn sweet. Supercharge them and you are laughing. Someone tell me they would fit so i can buy the engine and tran setup im watching on Ebay.. I'd like a V10 in a Supe. As mentioned above it doesn't fit, the work needed would be on the scale of Ryan G's engine fit, perhaps more! Had another look into this yesterday as there is a viper engine and box up on the SXOC for £4k The complete engine is *much* heavier than a 2JZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 A V12 should fit, right? Top Secret in japan made a V12 Supra, the gold one with the evolution kai kit. so if a V12 fits why shouldn't a V10 fit? It depends on the angle of the V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 (edited) As mentioned above it doesn't fit, the work needed would be on the scale of Ryan G's engine fit, perhaps more! Had another look into this yesterday as there is a viper engine and box up on the SXOC for £4k The complete engine is *much* heavier than a 2JZ. but think of the torque of that bad boy i went out in in a dodge truck which has 1 fitted (forget the model) and by god that thing shifted! ill put up pics after Edited October 25, 2009 by Kirk (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Aye, it'd work out cheaper to buy said truck than buy the engine and then put it in a Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 The complete engine is *much* heavier than a 2JZ. Do you have any weight figures at hand? The torque on these are awesome indeed, and would make up for the extra weight imo. Would the corvette LS7 engine fit? What would be the most complete Chevvy block that has been known to fit then? Those suggesting the V12's- Which ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 LS lump fits in a RX7 so im sure it will fit in a Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Which one JP? How tuneable are the LS lumps? I want one strong enough for scope to supercharge. I want to get away from lag, in keeping with the power of a single turbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Any of them will fit id say, they are very tuneable, they are all fine for supercharging although they are generally better engines the higher the number, LS3 has some very nice heads i hear. My old monaro was a LS2 that i had supercharged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Do you have any weight figures at hand? Would the corvette LS7 engine fit? What would be the most complete Chevvy block that has been known to fit then? The viper engine alone is 330kg, that's just the block and heads The LS7 would be a great swap, although some work is needed to redesign the sump and oil pickup as the stock one is right where the supra subframe is. There are only 3 Chevy lumps I know of being fitted to a supra, all are 'old school' ones. LT's and older. I don't know of anyone that's fitted an LS lump, but I'm sure someone might have somewhere! LS lump fits in a RX7 so im sure it will fit in a Supra. Yep, as above, it'll fit size wise but needs a *lot* of work. How tuneable are the LS lumps? I want one strong enough for scope to supercharge. I want to get away from lag, in keeping with the power of a single turbo. Hugely tuneable. LS1 is the older lump and has the most available aftermarket parts, but it'd be best to choose a good base unit as there are massive variations in the spec dependant on what they were originally fitted to. The LS7 also has a lot of tuning potential, and with both lumps strap on superchargers are available for relatively little money and no bottom end work needed. However, many of the SC kit suppliers claims seem to be a bit unrealistic. Jamie would be best to answer about the LS2 block as he had one in the Monaro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 One other thing to mention - don't even consider this unless you have at least £10k to spend (£15k+ would be more realistic). The fabrication and engineering work required is substantial. The electrical work isn't to be overlooked either, the loom splicing alone was quoted at £1.2k for an LS1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Well the LS7 is from the Z06 is one i was looking at before the SRT-10 Engine tbh. The torque in standard form i think is 'only' around 475lbs.ft. Not exactly awesome from 7 Litres, but i imagine these blocks have quite alot of scope for future power upgrades. In truth, i would be happy with 500lbs.ft figure, with the sound of those V8's with torque straight on tap. I wish the single route excited me, then i wouldn't have to pursue such an awkward route. But imagine the fun once it is done. I already have the fitter - Just need to find the Engine and tranmission. If the transmission tunnel of the LS7 can be made to fit, i think that would be a better mate then the Getrag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I'd go with £15k as a base, Darryl. You're looking at a good £4k-5k for a an LSx engine (maybe £10k for an LS7). Starter motor, alternator, bracketing for everything, fabricating mounts, gearbox adaptation, throttle cables, wiring, electrics, plumbing, sump work, etc, etc. Then that's before we think of ECU choices, etc. Scary amounts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I have a feeling that the cost is not a real problem to Axle. Im pretty sure harry has a stock LS7 lump in his monaro, strapped on a pair of garrett gt30's and he has the SSR record with over a 1000bhp. Mad engine even in stock form:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 Aye, the LS7 is a legend of an engine. I need one in the shed - along with a couple of the others I have lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I already have the fitter - Just need to find the Engine and tranmission. If the transmission tunnel of the LS7 can be made to fit, i think that would be a better mate then the Getrag. Don't underestimate the work required to fabricate the new engine mounts, gearbox mounts, buidl the prop shaft and then balance it all. It's serious and delicate work and with the levels of torque is strictly motorsports specialists only. Don't forget the diff and drive shafts. An auto or NA one will not cut it. I'm not trying to teach you to suck egss or anything, it's just that most people who ask about this (me included as it turns out) don't know just how complex the conversion is. I'd go with £15k as a base, Darryl. You're looking at a good £4k-5k for a an LSx engine (maybe £10k for an LS7). Starter motor, alternator, bracketing for everything, fabricating mounts, gearbox adaptation, throttle cables, wiring, electrics, plumbing, sump work, etc, etc. Then that's before we think of ECU choices, etc. Scary amounts. By a very long way the most cost effective way of converting is to buy a 'cut out'. This means the engine, trans, loom and ECU from the car. The lucky thing is that many of the LS engined cars have the very strong T56 6spd fitted as standard. It has about the same power handling as the supra 6spd. The complex parts are mating it to the supra chassis, clearing the subframe & steering rack, and then connecting it to the Supra dash loom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T2 MSW Posted October 25, 2009 Share Posted October 25, 2009 I guess tuning the NA did not work out the Dann? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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