Guest Budz86 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi all. Would like to pick your brains... My brakes are squealing and it's really starting to get on my nerves now! There is nothing worse than seeing a group of girls, pulling up to say hi and them all covering their ears to stop them bleeding! I have a 1995 J-spec N/A, and it's the front brakes, both sides. Pads have loads of meat left on them and disc's are barely lipped (0.5 mm max). I have had them taken apart and re-greased, and the guy noticed that one of the sliding bolts was loose, and the other was seized. New sliders, bushes and springs (one's that push the pads apart) are now fitted, with loads more grease on them. But it's still squealing!! It only does it between about 20mph and stop when I apply the brakes, getting increasingly louder (I think) the more I slow. There is no uneven braking (car doesn't pull) and the steering and ride seem fine! Not sure what the problem is , any help or advice is appreciated. Thanks Dean Ps; sorry if this is a re-post, I did do a search but nothing really looked the same as the problems I am having. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 needs some copper grease on the back of the pads, if it still squeels you've done somthing wrong or its the rears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Greased the back of the pads and the back of the anti-squeal plates but no change Thinking about brake cleaner but am slightly dubious about using it, will it affect braking performance? Is there anything I shouldn't apply it to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What pads are in there ? I have some race pads that i bought for track days and they squeal like a pig at slow speeds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurgen-Jm-Imports Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 What pads are in there ? I have some race pads that i bought for track days and they squeal like a pig at slow speeds. yep i agree i think you have race pads (squeel at low speeds) unless you brake hard and fast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 yep i agree i think you have race pads (squeel at low speeds) unless you brake hard and fast Lol thats my squeal explained thanks:) sorry for the hijack;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Of course, you could always try to "pull" elsewhere, perhaps a pub or something - then your brakes wouldn't be an issue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 I was thinking it could be the pads. Was contemplating a CW set, been told they are around £150? Would this solve or are they race pads too? Thinking about it, when I brake hard, it doesn't seem to squeal. But the car is completly stock so why would the previous owner have put in race pads? Also, have noticed since changing the sliders this afternoon, the squealing seems louder Hope I'm being stupid here, but is there any chance it's the bearings? Considering it only squeals when brakes are applied? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Of course, you could always try to "pull" elsewhere, perhaps a pub or something - then your brakes wouldn't be an issue But that's too easy! (Mind you, the car doesn't really decrease my chances! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity_south Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 i have the same probblem, squeeks under 20mph unless braking hard, i was told its because the pads are to hard (racing ones) am sticking it out though untill my D2 brake upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 You need to mix in different circles. Try the Goodwood festival. They probably show more dress sense and some may even appreciate the noise of race compound pads. If that fails I have anti squeal shims or soft pads, but I think your audience are to blame, rather than your car's braking system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Are you sure the anti-squeal shims are fitted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Are you sure the anti-squeal shims are fitted? Positive, although is there ment to be 2 per disc? one on either pad? as I have deffinatly got one on the outside of the disc, but the one closest to the engine bay is missing (if there should be one there! but I have copper greased this) Chris, what are your pads like? Been told they are the way forward with standard discs. Would they stop this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Positive, although is there ment to be 2 per disc? one on either pad? as I have deffinatly got one on the outside of the disc, but the one closest to the engine bay is missing (if there should be one there! but I have copper greased this) Chris, what are your pads like? Been told they are the way forward with standard discs. Would they stop this? There's one shim per pad and without them the brakes do squeal (IME). Chris's fast road pads are a superb all rounder for the smaller brakes, I never had any squeal on them and they survived a few track days and some seriously spirited driving (including a lot of use when braking from well over 150mph - on a T67 single!). I cannot recommend them enough - but the rest of your braking system needs to be tip-top to make the most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 There's one shim per pad and without them the brakes do squeal (IME). Chris's fast road pads are a superb all rounder for the smaller brakes, I never had any squeal on them and they survived a few track days and some seriously spirited driving (including a lot of use when braking from well over 150mph - on a T67 single!). I cannot recommend them enough - but the rest of your braking system needs to be tip-top to make the most of them. everything else as in...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 everything else as in...? Not quite sure what you mean - Are you referring to the rest of the brake system? It needs discs that are not worn out, a complete flush with ideally 5.1 fluid, ideally new braided brake lines and a master cylinder in perfect working order. It also helps to ensure that none of the sliders on the callipers are sticking (especially the rears as they seem to be prone to sticking on older cars) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 You need to mix in different circles. Try the Goodwood festival. They probably show more dress sense and some may even appreciate the noise of race compound pads. If that fails I have anti squeal shims or soft pads, but I think your audience are to blame, rather than your car's braking system *bows down* - I really did laugh quite hard at this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim_1979 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 My pads are all fine, but they do squeal like mad. My old Supra did the same. I just accept it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Not quite sure what you mean - Are you referring to the rest of the brake system? It needs discs that are not worn out, a complete flush with ideally 5.1 fluid, ideally new braided brake lines and a master cylinder in perfect working order. It also helps to ensure that none of the sliders on the callipers are sticking (especially the rears as they seem to be prone to sticking on older cars) Braided lines - question - aren't they *techincally* an MOT fail (in as much as they advisory on sills etc if you have body kit!)? I love the shiny braideds and I consider them technically far superior - just the inspection is what fails them right? When my brakes were playing silly feckers I didn't mess about! Bought brand new everything... in some well researched areas bigger than stock as my plans were afoot... funnily enough fixed everything and I am happy with brakes now. Worst thing to skimp on EVER - is the braking system on ANY car! New Brake master cylinder, new hoses, new calipers (a bit overkill can overhaul old ones), new Discs, completely new pads (goes with the calipers for me in this bit)... done Ramsay> Not cheap - but I will not compromise on stopping, regardless of having 30-1000hp!! Just aint worth dicking about. If you can't afford to stop it reliably you can't afford to drive it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 There is nothing worse than seeing a group of girls, pulling up to say hi and them all covering their ears to stop them bleeding! oh tell me your not one of those losers that circles clubs in the earlly hours in his car hoping that some wasted teenager is going to get in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Not quite sure what you mean - Are you referring to the rest of the brake system? It needs discs that are not worn out, a complete flush with ideally 5.1 fluid, ideally new braided brake lines and a master cylinder in perfect working order. It also helps to ensure that none of the sliders on the callipers are sticking (especially the rears as they seem to be prone to sticking on older cars) Sorry, yeah I was talking about the rest of the braking system. Just thought, now you mention it I topped up the brake fluid level with 5.1, but not sure what was in there before. Would this make it squeal if the were different fluids? I think changing the pads and flushing and replacing the fluid will help. How can I tell what pads are on the car? Couldn't see it on the pads and it doesn't say on the invoice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Budz86 Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 oh tell me your not one of those losers that circles clubs in the earlly hours in his car hoping that some wasted teenager is going to get in! lol. nope, was only kidding. Being out when the clubs chuck out is way past my bedtime! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprab Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Recently got fast road pads and Braided hoses from Chris Wilson, no noises just damn good brakes now..highly recomend them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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