MONKEYmark Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 hi just got back from racelogic at 5pm tonight.had my traction control fitted.i was expecting a big place.its only a tiny lock up in an industrial estate.12 people work there.looks a very good set up.also there was a fomula car place opposite. thing is i was getting fuel cut problems since fitting my de cat pipe.got the trl fuel cut defencer,never got round to fitting it.on my way home i was checking out my traction control out trying to spin it out.i have stopped getting the fuel cut problem.is it possible the rltc has cured the problem?? or should i install the trl fuel cut mod seen as i have got it i am very impressed with the rltc with launch control it seems a bit strange having to turn engine off and set then engine back on he told me it dont work on autos,i know you can do it through power braking.not tried it. is there anything i need to know about the rltc just have to learn to trust it,i keep getting used to foot off when i get a twitch on back end. i asked him about making sure it was set up for a 6 cyl car he said dont worry we have done loads of supras. it was good to see my supra been driven up the road burbaling away with my blitz nur spec r exhaust. justin you are right its well worth the money need more testing out me thinks worth the 400 mile round trip £72 in petrol (went 60 miles out of way too) ended up going wrong side of a421 went left instead of right ps to mod if this is in wrong section feel free to move thanks for any info just curious about not getting fuel cut ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Rudd Posted March 18, 2002 Share Posted March 18, 2002 I can't see how the RL unit could possibly defeat fuel cut. It just uses what it sees coming from the ECU. It doesn't actually control the injectors, it just makes decisions based on wheelspeeds on whether or not to let through the normal pulses to the injectors. I'd be utterly amazed if it had removed your fuel cut... unless RL fixed some dodgy wiring to a your ECU from an old FCD when they were fitting it Cheers Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted March 18, 2002 Author Share Posted March 18, 2002 hi mate my car was standard when i got it so not had fuel cut problem before.only got it when i had my de cat pipe fitted and started to get fuel cut.i tried loads of times on way home it never happend once.its strange to me and just wanted to ask you guys in the know i will see how it is over the next day or so,might just fit the fuel cut anyway as i have paid for it. thanks for the reply mark leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GavinL Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Quote: from MONKEYmark on 11:21 pm on Mar. 18, 2002[br]hi just got back from racelogic at 5pm tonight.had my traction control fitted.i was expecting a big place.its only a tiny lock up in an industrial estate.12 people work there.looks a very good set up.also there was a fomula car place opposite. I'm not sure Racelogic would appreciate having their workshop/office industrial unit described as a lock up :biggrin: regards........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dipstick Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 As mentioned above, there is no link to fuel cut. I would imagine you have the bog standard RL settings, they may be inducing injector cut where you don't want it. See the thread started by Phil Wall for new users of RLTC, I know he would be interested in your settings. (Edited by Dipstick at 10:01 am on Mar. 19, 2002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Connelly Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 I'm reading several things regarding Racelogic Control setups. What exactly needs doing for it to optimally work on a MK4 TT Supra? 1) Will my system (still in box) cope with 6 cyls as I read the other day older systems only catered for 4 cyls? 2) Would I 'HAVE' to remove the stock TC system? 3) Can I re-route the stock switch to the Racelogic system to act as an ON/OFF switch? I thought it was just a simple setup procedure. I'm now a little confused. Sorry, I've never been very technical when it comes to cars! Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Rudd Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Pete, to answer some of your questions: 1. All of the systems handle 6 cylinders, just some of the default setups (mine included) were set to 4. It can easily be changed. 2. Nope, no *need* to remove the stock TC system at all. 3. I'm sure something could be done, but you'd probably want it to stay connected to the stock system if you aren't removing it. Don't panic, there's been a lot of discussion about the RL system which has maybe made it sound a bigger PITA to set-up than it actually is. Its pretty easy in reality, in fact I'm sure Phil Wall could provide you with a perfectly good DAT file so you don't have to do anything! Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Connelly Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Cheers Graham, So basically, if I go to Racelogic get it fitted, then get the DAT file from Phil everything should be sweet? How is the DAT file stored? Flash ROM or something? Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Rudd Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 Yep, just get it fitted and get a DAT from Phil and you'll be sorted. I'd assume the DAT is stored on some kind of EEPROM, the fact that its stored is all we need to know though! BTW I reckon any half competent electrician could fit it for you. Its a simple job (space available aside). Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Wall Posted March 19, 2002 Share Posted March 19, 2002 I have a number of dat files all with tried and tested settings, that I have passed on to other members, as all but a very few had very basic settings in the file stored in the RL unit. As Graham said some are set up for 4 cylinder cars, it is not difficult to put right, but a bit of a shock when you try to start up your car and play with RL. Every file I have analysed has had plenty of room for improvement. Loading the file is simple. After a quick 180 degree corner set up drive you are ready to play. Fitting is not difficult either, it is awkward due to limited access to the ECU loom. A Field loom extension harness is ideal as most of the work can be done sat at a bench. Matt Harwood has found a supply, he had some at Bolney. The harness gives opportunities for a rapid return to stock for checks or other purposes. Apart from a few stereo bits I have never touched car eletrics before, so it can't be that difficult, if I can fit it. I think RL will fit it for £150 (Edited by Phil Wall at 8:05 pm on Mar. 19, 2002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted March 20, 2002 Author Share Posted March 20, 2002 hi before i got racelogic traction installed i asked the guy fitting it about the 4cyl and 6cyl,he told me he had done loads of supras.so i should think they know what they are doing.seems like phil wall is the master with settings and info regarding rltc. i dont have a lap top so i cant send you my dat file.also i left my pc connection lead and floppy disk at racelogic i rang him up and he is sending it out for me.it is a small place.maybe i was expecting a huge building with f1 cars and loads of fitting bays.looked very professional place though.had a room where all the hardware was made.and in the fitting bay they had loads of blitz dump valves and induction kits and some exhausts.i will have to plug in my old p120 and back up the dat files and send them to you phil would like to talk with someone to learn a bit about the settings and how they use it to the best effect.what do you use for everyday driving.i will have to have a try to play with it. thanks for the replys also my stock tc is still in order also has anyone used the gear selector light thanks again mark leeds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONKEYmark Posted March 20, 2002 Author Share Posted March 20, 2002 just been out today and got fuel cut as i was testing speed out. oh well back to the drawing board time to install my trl fuel cut just had a look at ecu its a big mother is it the one on the right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Rudd Posted March 20, 2002 Share Posted March 20, 2002 is it the one on the right Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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