gavin.starr Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 im taking my beast off the road for a while to save forking out on expensive insurance and fuel costs at the mo. ive just bought an old kawasaki kmx from a bloke in my village for a £100 with a genuine 1357 miles on it from band new back in 1986 so ive just done that up and gettin it back on the road. ill run round on that and my calibra 16v for the time being. im also going on nights for a while so can get some extra cash flowing in. im after taking it off the road and saving up to do some work on it as i cant afford to do anything atm. ive reacently done the teins super streets suspension, and the bpu which i have had on for a while now. but i want to beaf the engine up a bit i dont really want to go to a single turbo (dont know why i just like the twins). ill probs have about £6k over 6 months to splash out on it. so im just guaging intrest on what would be a good recomendation to take it to around the 500bhp region. with either a single or a twin setup. any replies would be great thanks gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 If you have to take your Supra off the road because of fuel costs and insurance you would be wise to steer clear of a single conversion IMO, it is very expensive and you need money to spare all the time to keep it running. enjoy BPU and forget single if I was you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 If you have to take your Supra off the road because of fuel costs and insurance you would be wise to steer clear of a single conversion IMO, it is very expensive and you need money to spare all the time to keep it running. enjoy BPU and forget single if I was you Unless you have at least £8k spare for the conversion, stick with BPU. Running costs on a single are much higher than BPU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 well its the expense of running two cars and the motorbike im taking the supra off the road as it will be easier to work on when its not in use, once its all done the other car and the bike are going as they will no longer be needed. my bpu has been on for 12months now and im looking to upgrade to another level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You said you want 500 BHP, I guess you mean at the fly wheel, I would get your BPU to the optimum level with good brakes, geo set up and supporting mods, forget single unless you have at least 8K to spend as Homer suggested, a fully set up BPU car is a fantastic machine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 You could always strip the car down weight wise and make more use of the BPU by having lighter bits... ooh errr... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 not really helping here like i said at the top im happy staying with the twins but maybe uping the performance level more to get the opimum from my engine. like i said above im guaging some intrest into what can be done to do so. what can i get for £6k to make it into a true machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 not really helping here like i said at the top im happy staying with the twins but maybe uping the performance level more to get the opimum from my engine. like i said above im guaging some intrest into what can be done to do so. what can i get for £6k to make it into a true machine. I was trying to help ! You would not see your 6K go very far with a single set up, maybe Hybrid turbos and a piggy back ECU with bigger injectors and intercooler would get you the power you need (450ish fly) you have to think about clutch, brakes, fuel, radiator etc these all add cost, I am not one to put people off going single, it is a great feeling and power BUT it comes at a cost and 6K just will not get you there safely IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 Unless you have at least £8k spare for the conversion, stick with BPU. Running costs on a single are much higher than BPU And for £8k I could have got an n/a V8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share Posted July 24, 2008 im not after going single it was just an idea that came into my head. sorry if i shot at u then but i didnt think we were getting to te point i orrigionaly intended. ive got a clutch put in by chris wilson less than 6000k ago so that might need to be changed/uprated. if i do change things. ive got the j-spec calipers runing 3g disks atm and are doing pretty well tbh but was thinking of swapping them for uk spec ones. ive done the rad and gone with a koyo alli rad which id doing a great job of cooling. and ive allrady done the intercoler too. so if ure saying hybrids bigger injectors and a piggy back ecu what sort of price should i be looking at for these. thanks for ure help by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 24, 2008 Share Posted July 24, 2008 To be honest mate, it's just not worth the bother. If you want to stick with the stock system then leave the jspec turbo's in there, leave the injectors, but get a full stand alone ECU and proper map to make the most of it. The stock injectors are more that capable of anything the stock turbo's can manage, it's the transition point that needs work. IMO, having done most routes, your money will be best spent on a proper suspension and wheel/tyre setup. Most aftermarket stuff is terrible and doesn't help you get the most fro the car on the road. If you have money spare then a full Chris Wilson suspension setup is the best money you'll ever spend. Brakes wise, the UK upgrades are worthwhile if you want to use it hard on the road. And finally, please cut the text speak, it's very, very annoying and is a sure way to stop anyone 'in the know' from replying to your posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 sorry its just habbit from emailing the girlfriend all the time whilst im away. i have pretty much only just done my suspension so i dont really want to remove £600 worth of it for a new setup. what sort of price should i be looking at for the stand alone ecu system then if thats the only mod worth doing. im more of a streight line kind of person rather than cornering so the suspension set up i have on my car is fine for what im after. are there no other things worthy of being added to create faster acelleration times other than launch controll units to aid you off the line etc... cheers gavin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Where is the car gonna be kept when you take it off the road mate? Would it not be wise to keep the insurance going should the worst happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 garaged at a mates garage so it will covered under there insurance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy W Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 garaged at a mates garage so it will covered under there insurance That's not too bad, better safe than sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 25, 2008 Share Posted July 25, 2008 Agree with tooquicktostop and Homers points above. You're not going to get 500hp out of the stock or hybrid turbos, 430hp on stock turbos is about the limit. I would look at doing the following. Intercooler - either new side mounted or front mounted. Cams - in256/ex264. ECU - Emanage Ultimate would be my choice with stock turbos. Brakes - larger OEM brakes front and rear with good set of pads and braided lines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavin.starr Posted July 25, 2008 Author Share Posted July 25, 2008 the ecu is it this one that you are recomending. http://www.envyperformance.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=product.display&Product_ID=7055 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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