David Reid Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I am new to supras but am currently building myself a drift toy. I am just thinking about brakes what are the options. UK brakes are available 315mm? Are there any bigger disc kits available for the UK or JDM brakes? My car currently doesnt have any discs or calipers, so I am not sure where to start. I dont really want to splash out on AP or K-Sport as they are a bit over the top and I have better things to be spending the money on at the moment. Advice please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 I`m sure uk`s with decent pads/lines and fluid will be upto the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 CW race pads and CW fully floating discs I have this setup on mine, they use the stock 4 pot calipers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 CW race pads and CW fully floating discs I have this setup on mine, they use the stock 4 pot calipers. Any links? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 (edited) Chris Wilson is a well known trader on this forum. http://www.performancefriction.com/pages/compounds.htm The race pads are 97 compound performance friction :- This compound was designed as an all-purpose pad where excellent controllability was a priority over ultimate stopping power. Due to its excellent modulation characteristics, this pad has proved very popular with race schools, rallying, and as a rear pad for applications such as touring cars. 97 has the lowest wear of all compounds, typically providing two to three times more life expectancy than competitors. This compound can also dramatically extend disc life. 97 is a medium torque race compound and as a result can provide reduced brake temperatures in situations where poor cooling can result in premature disc failure. 97 has the flattest torque curve of all the Performance Friction compounds. Effective from 167°F and reach 2000°F (75°C, reach 1100°C), 97 uses Performance Friction’s unique lubrication package that maintains a minimal transfer layer on the disc to help prevent brake judder and provide excellent release properties, therefore reducing overall drag in the brake system. 97 is extremely easy on the discs with very low wear. 97 is now being used in Bondurant, Derek Daley, Dale Jarrett Driving Adventure, Panoz, Mid Ohio, and Jim Russell racing schools because of it's long wear vs. performance vs. control and modulation. Edited July 22, 2008 by Wez (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 I`m sure uk`s with decent pads/lines and fluid will be upto the job. Thanks, just to confirm are these available from any UK car NA or TT, or Facelift Jap spec TT is that correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 22, 2008 Author Share Posted July 22, 2008 Chris Wilson is a well known trader on this forum. OK i'll have a look for him in the traders section Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 He's not there mate. See here. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2043187&postcount=1 Email only bud no PM's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Uk n/a was never an option, but yes any uk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Do you actually NEED big brakes for a drift car? Seems to me to be a science of getting around around a circuit as slowly as possible with maximum tyre wear, but I'm a sad old *astard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Do you actually NEED big brakes for a drift car? Seems to me to be a science of getting around around a circuit as slowly as possible with maximum tyre wear, but I'm a sad old *astard? Thought it was only mee that had that opinion, but there again I am even older than you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Oh, Alan, surely not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 22, 2008 Share Posted July 22, 2008 Do you actually NEED big brakes for a drift car? Seems to me to be a science of getting around around a circuit as slowly as possible with maximum tyre wear, but I'm a sad old *astard? There are a very small selection of younger members who feel your pain Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Do you actually NEED big brakes for a drift car? Seems to me to be a science of getting around around a circuit as slowly as possible with maximum tyre wear, but I'm a sad old *astard? The idea is to get around as quickly as possible with the maximum angle following a set line. But I agree its not all that hard on the brakes. The one that will get used the most is actually the handbrake. I dont have any brakes at all on my car at the moment, so while I am doing it I may as well fit the best in my budget. Which from the replies I have had seems to be UK spec. The reason I asked about big brake kits is that for 200sx's there are several kits available to add 315 or 330mm discs using the standard calipers on spacing brackets. They work well and are very cost effective, I just wondered if anything existed for the supra, but it seems no one has developed such a kit yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Probably because the most effective mod for cars fitted with smaller, J-spec brakes is to upgrade to UK spec. Once you've upgraded to UK spec brakes, the calipers are pretty large so you would struggle to get wheels to fit them if you started moving them out from the wheel centre, unless you had 19's or something, in which case you're not really interested in performance so why bother upgrading the brakes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Are the supra 4 pots (UK type) fitted to any other toyota model for example are Lexus LS400 calipers the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 (edited) ... are Lexus LS400 calipers the same?They are different, alloy (so much lighter), and use slightly smaller discs. Must be from the 1995-2000 model (UCF20). The earlier ones are more or less the same as the small Supra calipers, and the later LS430 calipers are enormous and need adaptors. They bolt straight on, with the correct length bolts, but may need a little fettling (illustrations nicked from Supraforums): Edited July 23, 2008 by garethr (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 Project Mu make these sports brake shoes for the Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flipper Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 LESS BRAKES .......LESS MISTAKES...... I agree with Chris Wilson...its about being smooth not pulling you out of trouble... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 Project Mu make these sports brake shoes for the Supra. http://www.project-mu.co.jp/images/photo_shoe.jpg Thanks just the sort of information i am looking for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reid Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share Posted July 23, 2008 LESS BRAKES .......LESS MISTAKES...... I agree with Chris Wilson...its about being smooth not pulling you out of trouble... Yes but when I do get it wrong i want to be able to stop quickly. Dont forget this will be a learner car for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted July 23, 2008 Share Posted July 23, 2008 CW race pads and CW fully floating discs I have this setup on mine, they use the stock 4 pot calipers. if these are ally centres you defo do not want them on a drift car, the rear ally bell would last about 10 minutes with all the handbrake action on a drift car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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