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I don't think you are supposed to take the needles off are you? can't you just slide the new dials over them? What did you get and where from by the way? Thinking of getting some white ones myself, saw somebody's car at Billing with them and looked good (possibly Phil I think).

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Now, I'm prepared to get shot down in flames here, but I think the centre cap piece of the needle pulls off, leaving you to slide the dial on and off, with the centre hole sliding along the needle.

You also need to pull out the little plastic "stop" at speedo zero.

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thorin - im making some. at work we have been experimenting with EL. its looking good so far. i need to get the stock ones out to scan and use as a template to design mine over. its going to be a difficult job (along with making every other dash light blu), but i think i can eventually pull it off. i wanted to get the centre hole (of the new dial) under the cap that is on the needle, so i cant slide mine in, and the hole on the stock dials is much too small to get around that cap. i would if at all possible like to avoid removing the needles due to the hassle of recalibration.

 

rob - i tried that but couldnt get it to budge. i didnt try too hard tho in case of breaking. have u done this?

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I'm fannying about with my petrol gauge dial face (changing one of the logos in there).

 

Someone (possibly Phil Irwin) said you can lever the needles off with two teaspoons, one on each side.

 

Anyone who has fitted a white dial or lumi-dial kit will know how to do this properly. I rekon by tomorrow we'll have an answer one way or the other.

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Dial Kits are available from TorqueIC (http://www.torqueic.com). About a £100. Dials are good, except you may need to mod dashboard lighting afterwards as it is a bit dark.

 

Darrens right, tis a case of levering with teaspoons. There is a risk of shaft breakage though, as I found out to my cost (£60 for 2nd hand fuel gauge!).

 

The stop pins are quite securely fitted to the old guages. Best bet is is trim the back off it with a stanley knife and refit to the new dial faces with a bit if superglue on the shaft.

 

As far as calibration goes...

 

-Before removing the old dials.... On the rev counter make a note of the revs when running at idle on a hot engine.

 

-Drop the needle on the speedo below the stop and (with the ignition on) make a note of where it stops. You can afford to trim the shaft down on the stop to allow the needle over easier.

 

-Make sure you have a full tank of petrol.

 

- Note where on the temp gauge the needle is when engine hot.

 

-remove all needles as above and take off the faces. Glue on the new shafts and stick faces back on.

 

-Fit cluster back into car, but leave clear facing off for calibration.

 

- With hot engine at idle, put all the needles back on, in the same position as above. The speedo needle will be very approximate although all the others should be accurate.

 

- To calibrate the speedo - on TT 6speed JSpec, 56mph is 2000 revs in 6th gear (84mph - 3000 revs). So find a nice stretch of road and do a bit of trial and error!

 

Cheers

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