Gaz6002 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 http://pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=18396 What do we think about this then? Good idea? Personally this is exactly what I've been waiting for - they just need to make it a no speed limit road and allow annual subscriptions and it will be perfect. I'd pay £5 extra seeing as it already costs me £75 a tank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I've got one thing to say about that: M6 toll road. Nobody uses it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Needs to be more expensive to keep it clear and put people in jail who use them without paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 I've got one thing to say about that: M6 toll road. Nobody uses it. Exactly - and how much fun is there to be had as a consequence? They used to have a similar thing in Moscow back in the day... lanes for diplomats and gentry. That was during communism though so slightly different. Slightly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Needs to be more expensive to keep it clear and put people in jail who use them without paying. Agreed - or just simply hang them from the gantries next to the "slow down - spray" warnings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 If it was £5 per tank-full, or £5 per week, then maybe (if it covered the part of the M3 I use every day, but it doesn't) but they are talking about £5 per use - an extra ten quid a day for me would almost double my travel costs - not worth it really. Plus it'll be a big vote loser for Labour - creating a "better than thou" lane for rich people? yeah that'll go down well with poor people who vote labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Sounds ok in general but I do not like the Hard Shoulder idea, the Hard Shoulder is meant for Emergencies and as such should be kept as that only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I like that idea actually, unusually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Plus it'll be a big vote loser for Labour - creating a "better than thou" lane for rich people? yeah that'll go down well with poor people who vote labour. You say that like it's a bad thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 You say that like it's a bad thing? I agree - anything that gets rids of those tossers bit quicker! I also quite like the idea of having a 'fast' lane I can access. But I can't see the labour spin machine doing something politically unsound like this...unlike the politically unsound things like having an unelected leader, taxing the country into a hole, or blahblahblah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 What a crock. Pay as you drive one way or another it seems. You already pay road tax so why should you have to pay to use a hard shoulder, which in itself is ridlicious idea. I don't even know why I'm getting upset, I have no intention of coming back anyway ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erol_h Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 i dont think this will work just sounds silly but hey if they make more money . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'd happily pay a few extra quid to use an open motorway. I've got one thing to say about that: M6 toll road. Nobody uses it. It's great eh? Clocked some serious speed along that one early morning. At the pay booth the GPS showed 150mph average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sted Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Just another way of making money......! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Where do you go if you break down and the hard shoulder is taken ? If you pay and someone has broken down in the hard-shoulder, do you get a refund ? I love the M6 Toll, best thing since sliced bread, for less that £5 I can fly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 I'd rather they put this much effort into solving the cause of the jams. I could solve the jams approaching j4 of the M40 in each direction at a stroke- a 3rd lane under the junction. They built that junction in 1969 and ever since they have tried to improve traffic flow without attempting the easiers, cheapest most obvious solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharpie Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Teaching people to move the Feck over would make a huge difference....bloody middle lane lazy fe&^%&$()$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 Teaching people to move the Feck over would make a huge difference....bloody middle lane lazy fe&^%&$()$ There in lies the crux of the problem with driving in the modern United Kingdom. Very few know what the f*ck they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_jza80 Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 We should have a seperate road system for cars with 200+HP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 We should have a seperate road system for cars with 200+HP Or maybe over 400Bhp :eyebrows: Any more for anymore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 The toll roads are empty now, but they won't be when they're all toll roads. Just take a look at Japan. To get to Mine's I have to pay 3quid to get out of Yokohama, then 5 quid to get down to the main junction, then 1.50 to use a small single lane road that goes up to the town they're just outside of. Round trip 19quid + petrol. It always starts off as "well I don't mind paying a bit if I can beat the queue" then the government pounce on that and before you know it you're being charged to drive everywhere. I use public transport for getting about 99% of the time. It's faultless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 The toll roads are empty now, but they won't be when they're all toll roads. Just take a look at Japan. To get to Mine's I have to pay 3quid to get out of Yokohama, then 5 quid to get down to the main junction, then 1.50 to use a small single lane road that goes up to the town they're just outside of. Round trip 19quid + petrol. It always starts off as "well I don't mind paying a bit if I can beat the queue" then the government pounce on that and before you know it you're being charged to drive everywhere. I use public transport for getting about 99% of the time. It's faultless. Very good point however do they have road tax in japan? Now I don't mind the govenment doing this if they were to get rid of road tax that way the more you use your car the more tax you pay. This way it gets away from the whole "oh you have a gas guzzler I am going to rape you on tax even though you only use it once in a blue moon". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 It's a tax. Therefore shite....would that make it a triple tax to drive? Fuel, Road, Lane Tax.... How about 1 f&*kin tax...at source, from your wages....no HIDDEN taxes!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 I've got one thing to say about that: M6 toll road. Nobody uses it. Sounds ok in general but I do not like the Hard Shoulder idea, the Hard Shoulder is meant for Emergencies and as such should be kept as that only. Already done Hon. M42 uses hard shoulder to filter traffic to the next junction. Seriously cr*p road surface too. I'd happily pay a few extra quid to use an open motorway. It's great eh? Clocked some serious speed along that one early morning. At the pay booth the GPS showed 150mph average I do like that road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 18, 2008 Share Posted July 18, 2008 Yep yet another tax, and an incredibly stupid idea if they do plan on using the hard shoulder. I await the law suit when someone is killed when they break down on the hard shoulder and someone crashes into them. I notice someone has added the tag "will never happen", I wouldn't be too sure on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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