suprarob Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 hi guys Has anyone tried Avon ZZ3,s on there supra I have a price fitted £519.35 for 2 x 235/35 29 and 2 x 265/30 19 Is this a good price ? got eagle f1s on at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I have had these before and they are not that great. Each to their own when it comes to tyres. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I have them and they seem fine to me. Grip levels fine in both wet and dry and long lasting:). Though I have an NA so they wont have the torque going through them that yours would. I guess that would make a differance:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_vr6 Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I have been using avon zz3 for a while now, on my Na supra they are fine, i get great grip and great wet grip, they don;t last long though as they are quite soft, definitely on par with toyo tyres of the same price. My mk3 turbo has been through a set with no problems, unlike the new federal tyres it originally came with, that had me flying down a dual carriageway facing the wrong way in the wet most people have varying views on tyres, but i've used avon for years and they are great for the price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 hi guys Has anyone tried Avon ZZ3,s on there supra I have a price fitted £519.35 for 2 x 235/35 29 and 2 x 265/30 19 Is this a good price ? got eagle f1s on at the moment just remember that the tyres are what controls the entire car on the road (handling, brakes, acceleration etc), i would get the best tyres i could Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimojameso Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I had them and thought they were rubbish!! Ive got toyo T1R's now and there much better!! Can get the traction down much better and also have much more feel to them!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suprarob Posted July 14, 2008 Author Share Posted July 14, 2008 thanks for your input guys I,m just trying to make up my mind. Having 19 ,s on I am hardly going to be giving the tyres a test around a track. I just want something that can handle the wet and last a while I had some kumho tyres on at one point. They were cheep as chips but were dangerous in the wet, and no grip in the dry. I wont buy them again. keep the replies coming. All opinions welcome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 If you can afford a little more Toyos are great but dont last quite as long as they are very soft. Michellin Pilot sports are very good. Godyear do some good ones too like the Eagles. IanIan has some good tyres on, but dont remember the name, starts with V:search: Have a search on here for them. Also a general tyre search will bring up loads of results:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 VREDESTEIN tyres maybe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 VREDESTEIN tyres maybe ? Yep:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 they are on offer at the moment at a local garage thats why i remembered them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 VREDESTEIN tyres maybe ? They did very well in last EVO tyre test, 2nd to Goodyear I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I had Goodyear's and they were great. Then I put some Michelin Pilot Sports on, and they slide all over the place compared to the Goodyears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I had Goodyear's and they were great. Then I put some Michelin Pilot Sports on, and they slide all over the place compared to the Goodyears. Hmmm, interesting that, I found the exact opposite, found the MPSs were a lot more grippy, out of interest running any tweaked suspension or anything like that. Curiosity more than anything else I do rate both Goodyears and MPS though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I had Goodyear's and they were great. Then I put some Michelin Pilot Sports on, and they slide all over the place compared to the Goodyears. i have Goodyears at the moment, very pleased with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Hmmm, interesting that, I found the exact opposite, found the MPSs were a lot more grippy, out of interest running any tweaked suspension or anything like that. Curiosity more than anything else I have the Bilstein/Eibach combo. What pressure were you running? Someone recently told me that the michelins need to be run softer, which is why they reckon they were sliding... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I have the Bilstein/Eibach combo. What pressure were you running? Someone recently told me that the michelins need to be run softer, which is why they reckon they were sliding... Interesting, exactly the same combo that was on the car that we fitted them to. I can't honestly remember the pressure, but found the outright grip was definitely better (I will add if those people reading this literally... I am talking about a small difference here, not the difference between cores and tread kind of sliding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Well, I since softened them and found the grip was fine, and am now waiting to see where the wear occurs to see if they are too soft. On another aside, the MPS are higher than the Goodyears (both on 30 profile) and I had to roll the arches to stop them touching over bumps... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Gav are you running on 19s too? If you're on a smaller wheel would that make any differance due to the side wall etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoup Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 not on supra but had zz3 on my prelude and found them a tad nasty in the wet, might just be 200hp in front drive car though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Gav are you running on 19s too? If you're on a smaller wheel would that make any differance due to the side wall etc? hahahaha, funny man!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 (edited) hahahaha, funny man!!! I didn't think you would be;) Would that make any differance though, the size of tyre? Edited July 14, 2008 by hoff (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I didn't think you would be;) Would that make any differance though, the size of tyre? I'm a 17"'s man of course, and yes I VERY firmly believe having a small side wall would affect traction and general grip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 I'm a 17"'s man of course, and yes I VERY firmly believe having a small side wall would affect traction and general grip. I thought so:) Makes sense to me:) An MPS in 17s will surely handle better etc than in a 19inch version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesC Posted January 28, 2009 Share Posted January 28, 2009 Anyone on here had experience of Falken 452's and the Avon ZZ3? I have Falkens on at the mo and they are fine for me, just wondering if the Avons would be better? Any more comments on the Avons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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