DaveK Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 they did drop back when that phone came out. Sharp is no competitor by any means, but was using that to illustrate the time period. Market share did fall back in this period. http://networks.silicon.com/mobile/0,39024665,39121323,00.htm http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0ECZ/is_2004_May_19/ai_n6264768 Not that you are disputing Nokia's share price, but it has fallen as below as per my original post. http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=NOA3.DE&t=1y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c= Please dont argue with me about finance Sharp does not have significant enough market share for any model of theirs to affect Nokia market share. I didn't dispute that Nokia's shares had fallen - I said it was a general trend on the stock market. You could easily find a hundred companies who's shares dropped in the same period. Trust me - I know more about Nokia and their market share than you do. You're welcome to reply - each time I post on this board (very rarely these days) I remember what a total waste of time it is. It's like being in a school playground and I'm really too old for that. Enjoy having the last word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Sharp does not have significant enough market share for any model of theirs to affect Nokia market share. I didn't dispute that Nokia's shares had fallen - I said it was a general trend on the stock market. You could easily find a hundred companies who's shares dropped in the same period. Trust me - I know more about Nokia and their market share than you do. You're welcome to reply - each time I post on this board (very rarely these days) I remember what a total waste of time it is. It's like being in a school playground and I'm really too old for that. Enjoy having the last word. I agreed with you that you didn't dispute share price had fallen. Plus I NEVER said sharp's gx10 increased market share Sharp. That phone DID, however influence people to begin buying clamshell type phones - which in turn cost Nokia marketshare at that time. Assume we can agree on these points at least. EDIT - I also never claimed to know more about Nokia or mobile phones than you - you may well know a hell of a lot more than me. But I do know the facts I did state above and stand by them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkR Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 sooooooooooo, back to the thread title Anyone tempted? hahaaa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 sooooooooooo, back to the thread title Anyone tempted? hahaaa Yes, i went into the shop (no Q) to order one in for monday but the machine was broken when it was getting my address off my card (ALL 4). We tried lots of different ways for 3 hours, then i gave p It worked for everyone else I love my old iphone and only want the new one because mine is on orange and i cant get internet unless im in a hot spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 on a side note DO NOT UPDATE YOUR GEN 1 IPHONE TO 2.0 me and many others have done just that, and due to busy apple servers we end up with bricked devices, untill itunes store becomes a little less busy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 sooooooooooo, back to the thread title Anyone tempted? hahaaa Not me, I use phones for making phone calls, cameras for taking pictures & computers for surfing etc, I don't need something making a half arsed attempt at all 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted July 11, 2008 Share Posted July 11, 2008 Not interested in Apple stuff, but admire the clever marketing - getting people suckered into buying songs on the iPod so they're locked in for life rather than using free MP3s etc Just got the Sony Ericson W910i as an upgrade for £18 per month with 500 mins/texts per month. Don't use most of the features, but like the phone and I've had a couple of Sony's now. Can't stand Nokia phones - have got one for work and the controls are not as intuitive as the Sony's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Man Posted July 12, 2008 Share Posted July 12, 2008 I have got mine on Friday, long q but lucky the carphone shop is not popular like others. I got the last 8Gb phone and all 16Gb was long gone. I was kinda con into buying this one because although it has GPS built in there is no nav software at the moment because apple not allow third party to use it as nav or critical control application.. it is like whats the point having GPS but no nav system. 3G internet is good tho, full size internet browsing and I am on this forum on the go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 The remote control iTunes app is superb! I don't want a fancy sling box anymore. This is firmware 2.0 running on my iTouch - filmed on my iPhone so yes, it CAN record video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpsiPXOmHuw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lexsum Posted July 13, 2008 Share Posted July 13, 2008 i don't like the size. i keep my phone in my front pocket (nokia 6300) it is just a phone (and an emergency camera.) the iphone is too big and stabs me when i sit down and looks like you have an odd bulge when wearing formal trousers! so i have an ipod touch for music & movies, which i can leave behind, and a phone for a phone! - i will probably convert when the size is reduced to the screen size and no more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 The remote control iTunes app is superb! I don't want a fancy sling box anymore. This is firmware 2.0 running on my iTouch - filmed on my iPhone so yes, it CAN record video! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpsiPXOmHuw Just upgraded to 2.0 myself and been playing with the Apps. Out of interest where did you get the App to allow your iPhone to record video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 You need a jailbroken iPhone for that with the Installer program. The app is called iPhone Video Recorder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJ Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 Thanks for the reply Pete and bugger, I was hoping that wasn't going to be the case. I've been searching for a while and the only things I've found are for jailbroken phones. Only a matter of time I suppose until something comes up. Out of interest, can you use bluetooth properly on jail broken phones, or is it just a failing with the handset rather than some poxy restriction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schtuv Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 12 more months of contract to go with Vodafone, then I'll probably get one. Hopefully all the bugs'll be fixed by then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 14, 2008 Share Posted July 14, 2008 nope not for me Apple fantastic at marketing pretty average products tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 Out of interest, can you use bluetooth properly on jail broken phones, or is it just a failing with the handset rather than some poxy restriction? I never use it to be honest. Let me try. Hmm, can't connect to the Nokia. Looking around it seems it doesn't support most BT protocols. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 8, 2008 Share Posted August 8, 2008 Well I have had my 16gb 3G iPhone for 24 hours now. What an utterly pointless piece of equipment!!! I love it. Well not quite love, it looks great and for me it is not too big or intrusive. Have not got a clue what all those applications are you can download but will soon find out. Once connected to wi-fi it is very quick on the internet so the youtube feature is great, using normal wap (or whatever it is called) it is the usual slow. The GPS is so far very good, had it on today coming home on the train and it followed the arial map of the train track spot on. I have not tested the camera yet so nothing to say on that. Setting up my Yahoo email was simple as Name> email addy> password, that’s it and I was able to read and send emails from it. One thing that is getting right on my nerves is sending text messages. It is a QWERTY set up and you cannot change it. It may not bother Blackberry or PDA users but it is really annoying. Only thing that has went wrong(ish) so far is had to restart it today as it would not connect at all, could only call or text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 One thing that is getting right on my nerves is sending text messages. It is a QWERTY set up and you cannot change it. Really? That for me is one of the biggest plus points. I hate all this tap tap tap nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Really? That for me is one of the biggest plus points. I hate all this tap tap tap nonsense. Having not so thin fingers it is a pain, I am getting used to it though and the fact it sorts your spelling (it is as if iPhone knew it was stupidly small) is ok. Other thing is you cannot receive mms, you have to log onto 02 to view, now to me a phone that can support taking pictures is not designed to receive them is a bit of a downfall. You cannot send contacts i.e. setting up on my bluetooth head unit. Battery is not so great, Although have switched off everything that is not needed about 30 mins ago so will see if this makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Battery is not so great, Although have switched off everything that is not needed about 30 mins ago so will see if this makes a difference. Turning off PUSH and PULL auto mail collection makes a HUGE difference. Also Bluetooth. MMS - never used it. Picture straight to web is the future and it works a treat. (If only camera was slightly better). I've not tried the sending a contact thing. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Just up-graded my iphone to the new 3g one , damn itunes is already giving me hassle transfering everything . Nifty lil piece of kit the iphone though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 why? mine was stright from the word go, imported contacts, tunes, pictures etc Did you back up your old phone first? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 Turning off PUSH and PULL auto mail collection makes a HUGE difference. Also Bluetooth. MMS - never used it. Picture straight to web is the future and it works a treat. (If only camera was slightly better). I've not tried the sending a contact thing. Interesting. In a way it is advanced on what it can do, however in many ways it is also quite basic with not so many phone features if that makes sense? The Internet is great though, using it now replying to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 in many ways it is also quite basic with not so many phone features if that makes sense. They're not a phone manufacturer so it's to be expected I guess. As a tool, the phone part of it is really secondary. For me Nokia have always made the best actual phones and if I had to rely or use a mobile a lot then it'd be a Nokia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris2o2 Posted August 10, 2008 Share Posted August 10, 2008 why? mine was stright from the word go, imported contacts, tunes, pictures etc Did you back up your old phone first? Yep , got it sorted now . I made a slight sim card error /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_oops.gif Anyone know if its possible to use my msn mail account instead of the other options so i dont have to go on safari and msn.co.uk everytime to get my mail? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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