jevansio Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 Agree with Paul, you may get the best people to fit the best parts, still doesn't mean you can forget about the maintenance. It is a high maintenance car (but you gotta love them ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra dan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 so why is it more maintenance? this was my earlier point most people seem to be forever fixing singles. i would prefer to drive it than keep fixing it. i still dont see why you cant fit good quality parts, get it mapped then just drive it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 so why is it more maintenance? this was my earlier point most people seem to be forever fixing singles. i would prefer to drive it than keep fixing it. i still dont see why you cant fit good quality parts, get it mapped then just drive it. It's the little things, FMS's seem to be a common problem, misfires too. As Paul says, it's not the stuff you replace, it's the stuff you don't that is now 10+ years old and under a lot more strain than it was originally intended. Take mine for example, recently I've had: 1) Clutch release fork bolts shear (rendered clutch useless), probably wouldn't have happened in a stock car with stock clutch 2) Another missfire. Coilpack connectors are all brand new & hasn't had a miss in ages yet developed this. Turned out the pins in the coilpacks weren't making a good contact. 3) Exahust manifold blowing around gasket. Been fine for over a year that, probably due to the immense stress it undergoes. These are just a small example, & each of the parts that I used in those areas was top quality (RPS Stage 3 clutch & RPS Segmented Flywheel, new coilpacks & connectors, Sound Performance manifold - I didn't scrimp when buying any of that kit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 so why is it more maintenance? this was my earlier point most people seem to be forever fixing singles. i would prefer to drive it than keep fixing it. i still dont see why you cant fit good quality parts, get it mapped then just drive it. i would say my car is pretty damm reliable (famous last words) but it took time to get there, you have to remember you are performing some pretty major surgery when going single, there is an inevitable period after fittment where things need checking etc before you can call the install a success, think how much R and D Mr T put into the original twin turbo design and how much testing was done, then think how much R and D went into all your aftermarket components (probably not very much) you then have to realise you are putting a lot more strain on virtually every other component on the car (not just engine), you can not close the bonnet on a single install and re-open it in 10k mile for the oil change Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted July 17, 2008 Share Posted July 17, 2008 It's the little things, FMS's seem to be a common problem, misfires too. As Paul says, it's not the stuff you replace, it's the stuff you don't that is now 10+ years old and under a lot more strain than it was originally intended. Take mine for example, recently I've had: 1) Clutch release fork bolts shear (rendered clutch useless), probably wouldn't have happened in a stock car with stock clutch 2) Another missfire. Coilpack connectors are all brand new & hasn't had a miss in ages yet developed this. Turned out the pins in the coilpacks weren't making a good contact. 3) Exahust manifold blowing around gasket. Been fine for over a year that, probably due to the immense stress it undergoes. These are just a small example, & each of the parts that I used in those areas was top quality (RPS Stage 3 clutch & RPS Segmented Flywheel, new coilpacks & connectors, Sound Performance manifold - I didn't scrimp when buying any of that kit). spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra dan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 It's the little things, FMS's seem to be a common problem, misfires too. As Paul says, it's not the stuff you replace, it's the stuff you don't that is now 10+ years old and under a lot more strain than it was originally intended. Take mine for example, recently I've had: 1) Clutch release fork bolts shear (rendered clutch useless), probably wouldn't have happened in a stock car with stock clutch 2) Another missfire. Coilpack connectors are all brand new & hasn't had a miss in ages yet developed this. Turned out the pins in the coilpacks weren't making a good contact. 3) Exahust manifold blowing around gasket. Been fine for over a year that, probably due to the immense stress it undergoes. These are just a small example, & each of the parts that I used in those areas was top quality (RPS Stage 3 clutch & RPS Segmented Flywheel, new coilpacks & connectors, Sound Performance manifold - I didn't scrimp when buying any of that kit). good post, thanks. i am beginning to see the pitfalls. seems as though there is some luck involved aswell, some seem to have more problems than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra dan Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share Posted July 17, 2008 think how much R and D Mr T put into the original twin turbo design and how much testing was done, then think how much R and D went into all your aftermarket components (probably not very much) you then have to realise you are putting a lot more strain on virtually every other component on the car (not just engine), you can not close the bonnet on a single install and re-open it in 10k mile for the oil change wise words indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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