HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Hi Guys Been trying to organise a full parts list for a project car and after extensive discussion with specialist tuner near to me have come up with this list.Just looking some honest advise (as i know a lot of members have done project cars) on anythin that hasnt been taken into consideration.Im not the most mechanically minded person and told the specialist what i was looking for and this was what he ended up drawing together,and he said it would do no harm to check out what people have done projects before say regarding anythin they've fitted in this list that proved problematic.Theres a lot of money involved in it and as you'll appreciate,you want to make sure your doing somethin like this right.any comments are greatly appreciated guys Engine: Supertech inlet and exhaust valves (ss) +1mm Supertech Valve Lock Set Supertech dual valve springs Supertech Exhaust/intake Valve Seals PHR Titanium Retainer set HKS 264 inlet 264 exhaust camshafts HKS Cam gears in/ex ARP head studs HKS head gasket Toyota OE engine gasket kit Carrillo Forged H-Beam's and SPS bolts CP Forged Piston Set ARP Main Crank Stud Kit PE bearings through out ATI Crankshaft Dampener PHR Modified Oil Pump PHR Solid engine mounts PE Timing belt PE oil filter New OE water Pump Turbo and exhaust: HKS 50mm stainless steel T4 exhaust HKS GT 60mm external wastegate 65mm 321 stainless wastegate screamer pipe 3" mandrel bent downpipe with V-band 3" mandrel bent midpipe with V-band 2.5" mandrel bent aluminium drop-down style intercooler piping High gloss 3-ply silicone connectors 4" air intake tube 4" K&N high flow air filter PHR GT62 turbocharger with polished compressor housing 10AN stainless steel braided oil drain line 4AN Teflon stainless steel oil feed line 4AN Teflon stainless steel wastegate control lines Stainless steel turbocharger gaskets Stainless steel locking exhaust manifold nuts Stainless steel hose clamps New OE oxygen Sensor PHR turbo blanket HKS Carbon-Ti catback exhaust system Fuelling: Dual Bosch 040 fuel pumps 17.5mm (-10AN) high-flow fuel rail Aeromotive 13109 fuel pressure regulator Earls -6AN Stainless Steel braided fuel lines Hi-flow Earls fuel filter 850cc fuel injectors Cooling: AEM Water/Alcohol Injection Kit PE sports stat Polished upper hard pipe PE lower pipe Greddy 16row oil cooler + filter relocation kit Greddy Front Mount Intercooler Kit 3 row PWR radiator Transmission: New OE front, rear and selector seals New OE snap rings and F/w bolts TRD clutch line TRD gear box mount TRD LSD AP Engineering Shifter Bushing kit NEW oe Flywheel Spec stage 3+ clutch kit Suspension: R2 racing front bush kit R2 Racing rear bush kit Tein Flex coilovers with EFDC Controller Do-luck Floor bar Do-luck rear bar TRD front strut bar TRD front&rear sway bar Brakes: Brembo F40 front Kit Brembo F40 rear Kit Stainless lines Motul 600 Brake fluid Main Electronics: AEM ecu, 3bar map, AIT Tein EDFC HKS DLiII AEM UEGO wideband AEM Tru-Boost controller Hks water temp, oil pressure, oil temp gauges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraHuman Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I would not go with HKS cam gears mate.Titan or unorthodox racing ones are better and have a 5 bolt lock system as for the HKS 3 bolt system.Hks ones have been known to slip in the past and you're putting a lot of money into the build by the looks of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Nice spec list, i bet that lot adds up to a few bob, good luck with the project. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 I would not go with HKS cam gears mate.Titan or unorthodox racing ones are better and have a 5 bolt lock system as for the HKS 3 bolt system.Hks ones have been known to slip in the past and you're putting a lot of money into the build by the looks of things. thanks mate,will look into a set from titan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Nice spec list, i bet that lot adds up to a few bob, good luck with the project. cheers Jamie.yea it adds up to quite a bit but i think the price i got is quite good,as its for doing all the work and having it fully prepped so all im doing is getin in and driving away.havent really priced round,just takin it that the specialist i enquired with is giving me an honest price for a good build as there is a scarcity of specialist mechanics in my area Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I would add a VWR intake manifold. http://wotmstore.stores.yahoo.net/viwoinmaand9.html I hope the car is everything you want, be sure to keep us updated:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 I would add a VWR intake manifold. http://wotmstore.stores.yahoo.net/viwoinmaand9.html I hope the car is everything you want, be sure to keep us updated:) will have look at that Jamie,cheers.iv been saving for a long long time to do all this and have had some money left to me.its getin released on my 21st birthday at the end of september and i hope to start the project off very soon after this.it will be kept as my second car as i'm currently looking at getin an NA to drive around all the time.fingers crossed it all works out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatSport Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Would advise you to approach Marty up at SSI near Crumlin if you haven`t already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Which specialist? AEM wideband negates the need for stock O2 sensor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Would advise you to approach Marty up at SSI near Crumlin if you haven`t already have been speakin to him,he gave me this spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Which specialist? AEM wideband negates the need for stock O2 sensor. Supra specialist in N.Ireland.thanks for pointin that out.as i say not mechanically minded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfpro Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Why not go for the Brembo monoblock front kit? It is only slightly dearer than the F50 kit but it is the best they make. I have it fitted on mine together with the rear kit. It is awesome. Makes the uk spec setup seem like disc brakes! SSI did all my work and I can strongly recommend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Makes the uk spec setup seem like disc brakes! They are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfpro Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 They are Ooops:innocent: Meant drum brakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Why not go for the Brembo monoblock front kit? It is only slightly dearer than the F50 kit but it is the best they make. I have it fitted on mine together with the rear kit. It is awesome. Makes the uk spec setup seem like disc brakes! SSI did all my work and I can strongly recommend them. will look into this mate,have been referred onto Marty by quite a few people so i know im in safe hands when all this starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Also, never heard of supertech here. Don't know if that's bad or not. Basically if you're spending that much, go with tried and tested. Speak to Michel Lane and Chris Wilson etc. All members here. Good luck bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 i think you have missed one vital piece of information here, what is your ultimate goal for the car, drag, track day, dyno queen or just a road car and what kind of power are you looking at, if i were you i would find a reputable tuner tell him what power you want and let him spec and build the car (maybe Envy or CW) you seem to have some contradictions in the engine spec, oversize valves - why ?, are you aware where the stock valves wont flow enough air and what they do to the power/torque curve, titanium retainers and dual valve springs would indicate a raised rev limit but 264 cams would limit the breathing and make the oversize valves a waste of time, carillo H beam - potentially overkill dependent on power level, HKS head gasket - if this is being used to lower compression then why not just get the correct pistons and do it properly, i'm not trying to make you look daft here mate just trying to demonstrate that all these items are interlinked and if you are serious about this you will be spending 20k so you need to get it right first time or you could end up very dissapointed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 (edited) i think you have missed one vital piece of information here, what is your ultimate goal for the car, drag, track day, dyno queen or just a road car and what kind of power are you looking at, if i were you i would find a reputable tuner tell him what power you want and let him spec and build the car (maybe Envy or CW) you seem to have some contradictions in the engine spec, oversize valves - why ?, are you aware where the stock valves wont flow enough air and what they do to the power/torque curve, titanium retainers and dual valve springs would indicate a raised rev limit but 264 cams would limit the breathing and make the oversize valves a waste of time, carillo H beam - potentially overkill dependent on power level, HKS head gasket - if this is being used to lower compression then why not just get the correct pistons and do it properly, i'm not trying to make you look daft here mate just trying to demonstrate that all these items are interlinked and if you are serious about this you will be spending 20k so you need to get it right first time or you could end up very dissapointed as said before paul,im unfortunately not that mechanically minded and have got this from the specialist ive been referred to.i will point all this out however and Nic has sent me some very useful information.I had the intention of getin around 600bhp for a really good,well setup street car.had contacted Gaz at Envy for a spec and price but heard nothin back so took it he might not have been interested in the work but i may get back in touch and also send Chris and Michel a PM in relation to this to seek some advise thanks for the help mate Edited June 29, 2008 by HERBIE (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxluc Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Not sure if you have it on your list, but I would also put a Do Luck Rear cross bar on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mount = something broken. Mild cams with big valves and fancy valve springs and retainers = wate of money. Twin 044 = OTT. HKS head gasket = waste of money, stock is fine. A lot of these polyurethane bush kits are far LESS sophisticated then the OE setup, blah blah. Sounds like a lot of frills for not a lot of point, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mount = something broken. Mild cams with big valves and fancy valve springs and retainers = wate of money. Twin 044 = OTT. HKS head gasket = waste of money, stock is fine. A lot of these polyurethane bush kits are far LESS sophisticated then the OE setup, blah blah. Sounds like a lot of frills for not a lot of point, IMHO. Didn't quite want to get that blunt. But hey, that paragraph just saved you loads. Good job you asked here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Solid engine mounts and flexible gearbox mount = something broken. Mild cams with big valves and fancy valve springs and retainers = wate of money. Twin 044 = OTT. HKS head gasket = waste of money, stock is fine. A lot of these polyurethane bush kits are far LESS sophisticated then the OE setup, blah blah. Sounds like a lot of frills for not a lot of point, IMHO. thanks chris.will be having a detailed look through all the posts and taking out/changing what seems to be a lot of waste parts from the spec i had outlined,seems to be quite a few parts OTT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bondango Posted June 30, 2008 Share Posted June 30, 2008 I did put this list togather very quickly over an email one night, and yes, it was just a few ideas. I had been asked about ideas and cost for an ultimate street killer setup of around 600hp with built in headroom for future increased power goals etc etc It was by no means a definitive list, and was purely to give Herbie and Idea of what can go into a potential build..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HERBIE Posted July 1, 2008 Author Share Posted July 1, 2008 I did put this list togather very quickly over an email one night, and yes, it was just a few ideas. I had been asked about ideas and cost for an ultimate street killer setup of around 600hp with built in headroom for future increased power goals etc etc It was by no means a definitive list, and was purely to give Herbie and Idea of what can go into a potential build..... it was very much appreciated mate and im trying to get the money all together at present and a few changes to the spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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