Scooter Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 I can't understand why someone has not produced a 2 into 1 link pipe from the standard exhaust manifold/turbo mounting flanges to a T4 flange. Ok i expect there is ultimately a flow/heat/EGT issue for high powered singles but with the manifold being in place for all BPU++ and Hybrid cars i'm sure something like this would be a good starting point for 400-500 singles? The stock manifold doesn't seem to suffer any failures, and the low amount of material and welds required for such an adaptor/manifold would make it cheap to make even from good quality stainless? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 550cc injectors will they be fine or is the upgrade to 650's better... what HP will 550's support... before leaning off, with correct mapping etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 On the T62 PHR turbo you'll need 650cc to give at least a little headway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 550cc injectors will they be fine or is the upgrade to 650's better... what HP will 550's support... before leaning off, with correct mapping etc Pushing things, at 85% duty 550's will be at about 450bhp, (real bhp not thor bhp;)) 650's minimum, what are you planning on using to control them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dnk Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 As Homer says have a good look inside the manifold, the last one i saw had awfull welding with lots of spatter stuck inside the pipework, also the faces were miles away from being flat. I personally wouldnt use any of there parts, just my opinion, think i posted pics of the welding, i'll have a look. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Oh dear god no Have you not seen enough of the problems with XS power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 am using the emanage blue to trim them with.... also the welding inside are perfect, there all polished back flat... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 am using the emanage blue to trim them with.... also the welding inside are perfect, there all polished back flat... Can you get a picture of the inside of the collector please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bignum Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Are you fitting this yourself?, its the fiddly little jobs and niggles that make singles a nightmare imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 As Homer says, most of the ancillary parts are useless and downright dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Can you get a picture of the inside of the collector please Dude, get some pics up ASAP as requested earlier, this is a critical part to check on the XS manifold. The welding isn't what we're asking about, it's the size and position of the WG take off that we need to see. Get it checked now otherwise it could cost you serious money to sort out at a later stage. Most of the manifolds are okay, but we've seen a few where the hole is far too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 As Homer says, most of the ancillary parts are useless and downright dangerous. You're not kidding either. The XS fuel line disintigrated under WOT at 1.4bar resulting in fuel spraying out over the engine at 40psi. It was 6 months old and had only done 400 miles before failing. 2nd failure was a gasket (after I sold it), resulting in flames spitting out into the engine bay buring away part of the flame retardent material on the firewall. If Ryan hadn't picked up on it, the car could have been toast. 3rd failure was the oil drain, the gasket materail was incorrect and went hard resulting in a leak from the oil drain (which runs right next to the no1 runner) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 here is a few pic of the inside not clear but ground back smooth welded area's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 That looks like a different manifold to the one you posted on page 2? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2012067&postcount=21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 is this the pic yoou need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 That looks like a different manifold to the one you posted on page 2? http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=2012067&postcount=21 same one, just took the t3 flange adapter off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 That last one looks okay, but it's not ideal. It's smaller than the one on mine, but no where near as bad as the one Gaz1 had. Why is it different to the one pictured eariler? (Edit, nevermind, you answered in the mean time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 That hole does look a little small, but as Homer says its not the smallest one we have seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 Could have done a better job with my teeth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 same one, just took the t3 flange adapter off ahh i see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 would it be worth me grinding it out a little or isnt it that bad....and a know this might sound dump but which way is the best fit for the waste gate screamer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 Could have done a better job with my teeth please do teeth made out of steel and can grind it down some more please feel free:p;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 If you grind it, be VERY careful, the welds are not thick, and there is a a LOT of weight on the end of that tube. Not sure what you mean by the best way to fit the screamer pipe? There is only one way to mount it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted June 29, 2008 Author Share Posted June 29, 2008 If you grind it, be VERY careful, the welds are not thick, and there is a a LOT of weight on the end of that tube. Not sure what you mean by the best way to fit the screamer pipe? There is only one way to mount it no not mount it, a mean when your mounting the waste gate which side do you want the screamer pipe on the engine block side or the wheel side:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 29, 2008 Share Posted June 29, 2008 no not mount it, a mean when your mounting the waste gate which side do you want the screamer pipe on the engine block side or the wheel side:) Wheel side, when you come to mount it you'll see there's only one way to do it It should point straight down to the road, between the subframe and suspension supports That is unless you get a kit like mine where the wastegate touches the block... had to cut the manifold tube off and get it repositioned so that the wastegate would fit (yet another QC issue with XS power products) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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