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can any one help me i got an import TT 6speed supra and the standard breaks are shocking! Im looking to upgrade and woundered what size disks i should get as im roling on 19's and if i have to get anything specific as its an import!:search:

 

Okay... lets begin.

 

1. Try using capitals...

2. The jspec brakes (not breaks) are actually surprisingly good so they may need a decent service or replacing in parts.

3. roling on 19's??? oh dear god...

4. Try using more than just a !

 

If you expect a decent answer, we would like a decent post.

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Okay... lets begin.

 

1. Try using capitals...

2. The jspec brakes (not breaks) are actually surprisingly good so they may need a decent service or replacing in parts.

3. roling on 19's??? oh dear god...

4. Try using more than just a !

 

If you expect a decent answer, we would like a decent post.

 

OK

 

In words for the older generation!!!

 

My J-spec brakes have had a service new pads and new discs and fluid and i still suffer serious braek fade after braking from around 100 and worse if over!

 

Has any body uprated j-spec brakes and if so do i have to get any specific application as i hear they differ from the UK spec.

 

Also i was pointing out that i have 19 inch wheels as this will effect the size of the discs i can have!

 

Any helpful information would be appreciated:)

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unfortunately it's not just the wheel diameter that'll affect the brakes you can have - you need to look at wheel offsets as well.

 

Doing 100+ mph.... I'm assuming you're using the car on a track then? Is it car mainly used for track use, or road use as well?

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Doing 100+ mph.... I'm assuming you're using the car on a track then? Is it car mainly used for track use, or road use as well?

 

It does sound that like that. :)

 

Any helpful information would be appreciated:)

Here's something very helpful, do a search.This topic has been discussed many many times.

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OK

 

In words for the older generation!!!

 

My J-spec brakes have had a service new pads and new discs and fluid and i still suffer serious braek fade after braking from around 100 and worse if over!

 

Has any body uprated j-spec brakes and if so do i have to get any specific application as i hear they differ from the UK spec.

 

Also i was pointing out that i have 19 inch wheels as this will effect the size of the discs i can have!

 

Any helpful information would be appreciated:)

 

Good man :) Older generation??, cheeky :)

 

I've got UK specs on one of my cars and they are fantastic to be honest, however the jspecs with a few choice bits such as braided lines, decent fluid, fresh pads and discs will make a world of difference.

 

With regards to UK brakes, the diameter isn't always the issue either, the spokes on some alloys have a habit of rubbing on the front of the calipers. Most of the time 19's will be okay and not require spacers or the like.

 

Hope that helps, and cheers for making the effort :thumbs:

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C'mon people. We're all adults. We're smart, we learnt how to get dressed by ourselves etc etc.

 

Can we not get some coherent sentences together. Let's have some proper spelling, punctuation and grammar. Don't think that it doesn't matter just because 'it's the internet. It's not real life'.

 

If you can't be bothered to put some effort into posting then you shouldn't expect anyone to put the effort in to helping out.

 

One more thing. No txt speak please.

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C'mon people. We're all adults. We're smart, we learnt how to get dressed by ourselves etc etc.

 

Can we not get some coherent sentences together. Let's have some proper spelling, punctuation and grammar. Don't think that it doesn't matter just because 'it's the internet. It's not real life'.

 

If you can't be bothered to put some effort into posting then you shouldn't expect anyone to put the effort in to helping out.

 

One more thing. No txt speak please.

 

I will try harder next time! Sorry!:innocent:

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Good man :) Older generation??, cheeky :)

 

I've got UK specs on one of my cars and they are fantastic to be honest, however the jspecs with a few choice bits such as braided lines, decent fluid, fresh pads and discs will make a world of difference.

 

With regards to UK brakes, the diameter isn't always the issue either, the spokes on some alloys have a habit of rubbing on the front of the calipers. Most of the time 19's will be okay and not require spacers or the like.

 

Hope that helps, and cheers for making the effort :thumbs:

 

Thanks for your help! Hopefully i will refrain from my poor use of diction and the english language in my future posts! You have all been a great help!:D

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unfortunately it's not just the wheel diameter that'll affect the brakes you can have - you need to look at wheel offsets as well.

 

Doing 100+ mph.... I'm assuming you're using the car on a track then? Is it car mainly used for track use, or road use as well?

 

Its used for a bit of both! But only just started with the whole track thing! Uprated horse power and not enough stopping power i think!?;)

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what horsepower does the car have then? BPU? Thinking of bigger turbo(s) in the future?

 

UK brakes seem to be a worthwhile upgrade - but that said, I expect if you're planning on even more power you might be better off with one of the aftermarket kits available.

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what horsepower does the car have then? BPU? Thinking of bigger turbo(s) in the future?

 

UK brakes seem to be a worthwhile upgrade - but that said, I expect if you're planning on even more power you might be better off with one of the aftermarket kits available.

 

Yes deffinatly want bigger twins in the future. Already have uprated HKS ECU, HKS boost controler, hard piping kit, GReddy intercooler uprated con rods just a work in progress really. Not sure on actual BHP @ the moment need it to be rolling roaded! BPU??

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The most common brake upgrade it to fit the larger spec OEM 4pot front/2pot rear Supra brakes. These were fitted on all UK spec Supras and standard on some J-spec Supras.

 

They give much better braking performance compared to the smaller 2pot front/1pot rear Supra brakes and are essentially a straight swap (you will need to trim/remove the rear dust shield to fit the larger diameter discs).

 

Pics HERE of the larger calipers.

 

Other recommended brake upgrades

 

1. Good quality pads (my own choice would be a set of Endless CC-X carbon composite pads).

2. Good quality brake fluid (TRD or Motul)

3. Braided stainless steel brake lines (Goodridge, TRD, Weds, etc.)

4. Brake master cylinder brace (Carbing or Cusco)

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You need to be more specific about the brake fade. Is it pad fade or fluid fade? I assume pad fade as fluid fade is pretty startling. Pad fade is when the brake pedal stays firm, but the car won't slow down, fluid fade is when the fluid boils and the gasses produced compress, and the pedal just goes to the floor with VERY little effort or stopping power.

 

Decent pads are available for the Jap spec calipers, you can make Jap spec brakes live on a race track, given suitable pads and fluid.

 

If you decide to upgrade to UK calipers and discs I suggest you try YOUR rims on the front and back of a car with UK brakes fitted. It's the only sure way to know they will fit, short of tricky measurements that can go awry.

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