JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Hi please can someone tell me how hard it is to fit UK breaks to an import NA…. Will I require any additional parts to change the set up to UK speck? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 The first thign you need to do is find out whether your current wheels will clear the larger uk calipers...........if they do its a pretty straight forward swap..........if not its still straight forward but potentially a very expensive one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Yep got 18"s Will i need to change the mounting brackets? what sort of cost am i looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Nope, no change to the brackets... the only change you will need to make is the brake shield which needs cutting to clear the larger discs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Nope, no change to the brackets... the only change you will need to make is the brake shield which needs cutting to clear the larger discs. Thanks would it be easier to fit the UK shield? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 The first thign you need to do is find out whether your current wheels will clear the larger uk calipers...........if they do its a pretty straight forward swap..........if not its still straight forward but potentially a very expensive one! Sorry just geting the hang of this posting thing.... Yep got 18"s what sort of cost am i looking at? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Thanks would it be easier to fit the UK shield? Oh goodness yes, right mission to fit the UK shields.... Fitting the uk brakes is really as difficult as undoing the bolts to take the caliper off, undoing the brake line and doing the reverse with the UK caliper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Sorry just geting the hang of this posting thing.... Yep got 18"s what sort of cost am i looking at? Be aware that not all 18's clear the UK spec fronts... What I recall about £600-700 for front calipers, £500ish for rears, £40-100 for pads depending on what you go for (Chris Wilson's being my preference..) You have to remove old calipers, grind away the plate/guards and new calipers bolt straight on. Looked for my old threads when i went through this.. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=74174 http://www.internetwork.org.uk/brakes/brakes.htm Nic is a good man to talk to, in my thread I started here he shows the clearance you'll require from hub to the wheel... http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=72003 Hope this all helps. BTW brake upgrade on my old NA felt great Si Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Be aware that not all 18's clear the UK spec fronts... What I recall about £600-700 for front calipers, £500ish for rears, £40-100 for pads depending on what you go for (Chris Wilson's being my preference..) You have to remove old calipers, grind away the plate/guards and new calipers bolt straight on. Looked for my old threads when i went through this.. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=74174 http://www.internetwork.org.uk/brakes/brakes.htm Nic is a good man to talk to, in my thread I started here he shows the clearance you'll require from hub to the wheel... http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=72003 Hope this all helps. BTW brake upgrade on my old NA felt great Si Top bombing fella all possible questions answered in one swoop. Thanks every one for your help I'm off to raid the piggybank now!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 While, I will never say no to a UK brake upgrade as they are fanastic, before you start spending big pennies, what is the issue with the J-spec system? Are you finding you are at the limits of it? For a little less money you can improve the jspec system without changing it. Braided lines, set of CW pads and some good fluid. MOST people don't use the brakes to their limits, seriously.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 More info which may be of use. http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=18157&highlight=WHEELS+BRAKES&page=2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Oh yeah John consider nice to haves if you're going UK route - 2 bottles of Motul 5.1 or better (1 for flush, 1 for change), some goodrich braided brake hoses. Tho I agree with Gav, only look at it if you really feel you're reaching the limit of the j-specs. A set of nice new pads and the braided lines + fluid can make a reasonable difference (£60-70 for lines, £20 for the 5.1). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 I've seen J-spec brakes on an auto-tt stop it in an incredibly short distance, and that was down to a good driver, I personally think the brakes MAY have had a bit more in it, but they stop like they are supposed to...Ask Class one..it was his car and he was driving..very impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 Thanks everyone great tips and advice :-) Will consider all options. I would still like to change the breaks though as i am intending moving up to volks gtc 19" and the small disks and old calipers look rubbish and don't give the tight responce I'm after.... Thanks all once again It's great to be part of this great club of like minded peeps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted June 24, 2008 Share Posted June 24, 2008 Be aware that not all 18's clear the UK spec fronts... John this was my point..........i'd go as far to say 'most' 18's won't clear uk brakes. As a very rough guide you'll need 25mm clearance from the outer most side of your current caliper to the inside edge of the spokes of your current wheels. There's an element of leeway here as the measurement i've taken is from my calipers (same as yours) to the stock 17's currently on the that obviously clear the UK calipers. If you have say 15mm clearance then the UK's definitely won't fit, so i'd have a look at this before ordering bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 24, 2008 Author Share Posted June 24, 2008 John this was my point..........i'd go as far to say 'most' 18's won't clear uk brakes. As a very rough guide you'll need 25mm clearance from the outer most side of your current caliper to the inside edge of the spokes of your current wheels. There's an element of leeway here as the measurement i've taken is from my calipers (same as yours) to the stock 17's currently on the that obviously clear the UK calipers. If you have say 15mm clearance then the UK's definitely won't fit, so i'd have a look at this before ordering bits Got you mate i will be checking don't worry I have ultralight twins 18" as picture on profile and in garage section i will take my tape mesure to the before making the purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caseys Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Oh BTW John if you're looking at 19's... not all 19's clear UK spec brakes either! Previous owner of mine had 19's on and had to use spaces *hugs his Rota GTR 18's from Envy* mmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Fitment guide HERE courtesy of Heckler. Pics HERE of the larger calipers. Parts required for the conversion Front Brakes Pair of 4 pot front calipers Pair of front discs (OEM Toyota or aftermarket) Fitting kit (springs that hold the pads in place) Shim kit (prevents pads squealing) Set or pads (worth investing in a decent aftermarket set eg. Endless, TRD, etc.) Rear Brakes Pair of 2 pot rear calipers Pair of rear discs Fitting kit Set or pads *You don't need the rear shims you'll get no squealing and better brake feel without them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 Oh BTW John if you're looking at 19's... not all 19's clear UK spec brakes either! Previous owner of mine had 19's on and had to use spaces *hugs his Rota GTR 18's from Envy* mmmmm ok no probs will look in to it i am intending on fitting 19" Vlok GTC face 1's. Piggy bank allowing!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnHandy Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 Fitment guide HERE courtesy of Heckler. Pics HERE of the larger calipers. Parts required for the conversion Front Brakes Pair of 4 pot front calipers Pair of front discs (OEM Toyota or aftermarket) Fitting kit (springs that hold the pads in place) Shim kit (prevents pads squealing) Set or pads (worth investing in a decent aftermarket set eg. Endless, TRD, etc.) Rear Brakes Pair of 2 pot rear calipers Pair of rear discs Fitting kit Set or pads *You don't need the rear shims you'll get no squealing and better brake feel without them. Ideal what do you do in the way of aftermarket disks the fit uk calipers? and how much are the endless pads? would you do a discount for all items ordered together? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Ideal what do you do in the way of aftermarket disks the fit uk calipers? and how much are the endless pads? would you do a discount for all items ordered together? I'll pm you so I don't get in trouble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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