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1st CAT vs Restrictor Ring


charlieboo

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My supe is BPU but I've just had to put 1st CAT back on for MOT purposes. On the way to the station, I noticed an incredible difference in acceleration. The sudden surge of power at around 4000 revs is quite frightening compared to before. I thought this was supposed to be the other way around!!!

 

My boost guage/controller is buggered and I am waiting for a new one to be delivered, but I've taken the buggered one out and my guess would be that I would still gain power/torque from taking off the CAT's when running standard boost?

 

Any help appriciated.

 

Oh, and I've switched between the two configurations a few times to ensure that it's only the de-cat that's causing this effect.

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Okay then, second question...

 

What is the purpose of the sensor that goes into the CAT (one nearest the engine)? I have read that it is only a temp sensor, but I am wondering if this could be the cause of my power loss?

 

I doubt it makes much different, but my Supe is a '96 Facelift TT 6 speed.

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Okay then, second question...

 

What is the purpose of the sensor that goes into the CAT (one nearest the engine)? I have read that it is only a temp sensor, but I am wondering if this could be the cause of my power loss?

 

I doubt it makes much different, but my Supe is a '96 Facelift TT 6 speed.

 

Its a cat temperature sensor, i dont think it will affect the running of the car, as most people with decats take them off, so i doubt the ECU uses it.

I don't understand how your car can go better with a cat than without, are you sure its not just your perception of speed is erm faulty?

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To be honest, the speed isn't the issue. In either configuration she is damn quick. My concern is the kick in the back you get at approx 4000 revs.

 

All reports I have read on here state that with a double decat, you really feel the 2nd turbo come online, yet with mine, you feel it more (a lot more) with the CAT installed.

 

It's not a problem as such but I'm concerend that things are seemingly different for me than everyone else.

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Sounds weird mate. I had mine running with the 1st cat in and 2nd was decat and a free flow 3" cat-back. I made 354bhp flywheel with a hardly noticable skip in torque around the 4000rmp on the dyno sheet.

Then I got a hold punched through the 1st cat (to imitate a RR) and started hitting up to 1.2 bars in higher gears. At this point the car makes 390bph flywheel with a very noticable jump in torque when the 2nd turbo steps in. This is also much more raw and violent than with the 1st cat in. Just as you expected.

 

I cant explain why you see the opposite. I can provide you with my dyno sheets if you want to compare them your self.

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