tbourner Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That's funny, I can still find ones as old as 2004 http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=21613 That wasn't really about driving to London en masse and ruining everything though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fri3ndly Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 perhaps rather than speak about it, lets set a date, with route and actions all planned, post it on every forum we know, and also send it to the press, get things really moving, the more press coverage we can create the better, the media will run away with it then, (Tw4ts that they are). Choose your root carefully, otherwise you will also be shafted by the expense of 'Low Emission Zone' and congestions charges! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That wasn't really about driving to London en masse and ruining everything though! *cough* http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=263660&postcount=54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123tom123tom Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 am in for this lads, i would definatley be there if a date and route is set. sick of this goverment and these sh!t prices..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n boost Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 PISTONHEADS HAVE ORGANISED DEMONSTRATION FOR THE 19TH JUNE I THINK. I will see if i can find a link for it and there were 260 odd people sighned up for it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx1lew Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I am up for it however it will cost me £160 to london and back! would be a good supra meet like. what you need to do is start a rebellion, start terrorising places by hanging large posters off buildings with messages on for people to see. it would be good if you could arrange a date where a massive poaster is hung from a large building that would be seen in a busy area, 1 in in every major city on the same day at the same time, (a bit live V for Vendetta) also with message and date on it to arrange a date for a large nation wide protest that way if the public see some sort of action they may attend and take there chances. A massive poster with gordon brown on with Fail wrote across it would be good or tw*t. seriously maybe a message like, time to take a stand 08/08/08 join the protest then have that writen over a picture of gordon brown with £ signs in his eyes and devil horns.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I am up for it however it will cost me £160 to london and back! would be a good supra meet like. what you need to do is start a rebellion, start terrorising places by hanging large posters off buildings with messages on for people to see. it would be good if you could arrange a date where a massive poaster is hung from a large building that would be seen in a busy area, 1 in in every major city on the same day at the same time, (a bit live V for Vendetta) also with message and date on it to arrange a date for a large nation wide protest that way if the public see some sort of action they may attend and take there chances. A massive poster with gordon brown on with Fail wrote across it would be good or tw*t. seriously maybe a message like, time to take a stand 08/08/08 join the protest then have that writen over a picture of gordon brown with £ signs in his eyes and devil horns.. You can do the proof-reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Just heard from a friend of mine: in Spain 1.20€ for gasoline and 1.25€ for diseasel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Just heard from a friend of mine: I just heard from one of mine: 5 gas lighters for a pound, 5 gas lighters HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I just heard from one of mine: HTH It doesn't really H that much, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dangerousandy Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Right, I am pleased with this response and it is almost exactly what I was expecting. |People in this country are too 'comfortable' and don't want to rock the boat and cause disruption etc. If we just sit back and let the government walk all over us, then they will keep on doing and we all will deserve everything that we get. We are a club and that means we all share at least one thing in common. We need to stick together and turn this from a discussion on a forum into real life action. lets disrupt the 'common man' going to work, lets pi55 off people by driving slow and most of all lets get our message out in the public domain loud and clear. In France, everyone sticks together and they bring the country to a grinding holt when they dont like things the government dictate. I am up for doing this but its no good just me and a couple of others - we need every member on here to join us. I have mates who are members of the Starlet GT Turbo club, Volvo Performance owners club and the Jaguar Enthusiast Club, and they all agree with me and would join us if we can get this sorted. We having nothing to loose apart from a day's wages and a few hours and everything to gain. lets not let this die out as just idle chat - together we can make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I just heard from one of mine: HTH Crumbs, In 2000 they were 7 for a pound or 2 Clipper refillables for a pound, how's that for inflation. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 The rising price of petrol is predominantly down to high oil prices. Oil prices are high because of the weak dollar and because reserves are under pressure, there is a slim spare capacity margin - Opec does not have a great deal more oil to pump That scarcity is reflected in the high oil prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Im going to rock the boat and go against the concensus to say that we all need to realise that we all have up to 15year old cars that arnt very fuel efficient, and if we want to keep them we need to pay the price. Things change, petrol prices have risen (as has the tax placed upon it) and the tax is twofold. 1) to raise money 2) to encourage people to buy more fuel efficient cars. By buying fuel efficient cars it helps to contribute to the emmisions targets that we need to meet to ensure that we have a planet for our kids (no im not a tree hugger, just realistic). If the government were being really tough they would ban in efficient cars like ours, but they dont. They allow freedom of choice, but at price (high petrol and road tax costs) If it were left up to the public individually to make the required changes, then nothing would happen as we are all too damn selfish and would hope that the next person is changing, which they arnt because they are too selfish too. Therefore the government make the required changes for us as its good for us !!!! (awaiting the hail of messages back about this). Go on your trip to London and waste more petrol and money.. It wont get you anywhere in my opinion, no matter how many people stand up to it, and if changes do occur and the price of fuel is reduced (for cars) then it will be a bad thing. Yes i agree that costs of all commodities are rising, as almost everything is based on oil (plastic, food because it needs to be transported etc) and these things need to come down in cost again, but fuel tax needs to remain high so that car companies invest heaviliy in fuel efficient cars that are fast as well as fuel efficient. That way we can have the best of both worlds. Rant over, Feel free to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 The rising price of petrol is predominantly down to high oil prices. But still couldn't the government change the fuel duty to an escalator system thus keeping petrol prices capped (say 90p?), and make up the shortfall through tax on oil companies rising profit from higher oil commodity prices........ Ideally the goverment should concentrate on streamlining/efficiency instead of just increasing/inventing tax levies but that's the hard way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Hi got e-mail which sounds good, boycott esso and bp petrol stations, only buy fuel from independant stations ie asda tesco jet etc. E-mail this idea to 10 other people,they do the same. how quick would that bite the big 2 ? I buy V-Power. Its cheaper than diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 By buying fuel efficient cars it helps to contribute to the emmisions targets that we need to meet to ensure that we have a planet for our kids (no im not a tree hugger, just realistic). What's the point in doing that just in Britain unless there's a proper global initative due to China and India exponential increases in emissions? I read somewhere that if the whole of Britain just ceased then China/India will have made up the emissions difference in just a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 What's the point in doing that just in Britain unless there's a proper global initative due to China and India exponential increases in emissions? I read somewhere that if the whole of Britain just ceased then China/India will have made up the emissions difference in just a year or two. Thats it, lets expect some one else to do it eh !! Yes, we can only make so much difference, but its a start and we need to set an example. Also, we are world leaders in clean technology in Britain as our industries are based around technology not manufacturing, so it will directly effect our big firms and hence our employment prospects in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and1c Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 The rising price of petrol is predominantly down to high oil prices. Oil prices are high because of the weak dollar and because reserves are under pressure, there is a slim spare capacity margin - Opec does not have a great deal more oil to pump That scarcity is reflected in the high oil prices. Oil prices are high for sure...$200 a barrel rings a bell? But are we alll being hoodwinked about the amount of oil reserves that Opec actually has?? Is there a 'timeline' of how much oil is left given current usage rates? Im sure I remember hearing about 25 years notwithstanding any new reserves they find during that time God only knows what us petrol heads will do if and when oil reserves run out Im already looking into running E85 on my new motor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tannhauser Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Rant over, Feel free to reply. Sorry, too logical and fails to put relatively petty self-interests ahead of a long term view. Try this instead: Blah blah rip-off Britain blah blah bend over and take it blah blah average person in this country blah blah spoiling my God given right for fun. [Repeat ad nauseam to no end whatsoever] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Oil prices are high for sure...$200 a barrel rings a bell? But are we alll being hoodwinked about the amount of oil reserves that Opec actually has?? Is there a 'timeline' of how much oil is left given current usage rates? Im sure I remember hearing about 25 years notwithstanding any new reserves they find during that time That's basically what I was thinking. There's probably at least 30 - 40yrs of oil that's already been found/accessible with current technology, nevermind advancements in technology. Aren't OPEC always cutting back supplies? Sounds a bit like the diamond industry/cartel, although even 40yrs isn't long really. You'd hope we might get going on veg oil or something by then though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
and1c Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 That's basically what I was thinking. There's probably at least 30 - 40yrs of oil that's already been found/accessible with current technology, nevermind advancements in technology. Aren't OPEC always cutting back supplies? Sounds a bit like the diamond industry/cartel, although even 40yrs isn't long really. You'd hope we might get going on veg oil or something by then though. Well according to this article by the BBC back in 2004 oil reserves They reckon we have technically got possibly 100 years of oil left... This I doubt because it is related to oil they 'might, maybe, somehow get to'.. and even though technology will improve, so will the rate the world gulps oil, and I dont think the two will keep up at a steady rate myself. and who knows the real reason for such high oil prices? maybe the world is now using oil at such a huge rate that they cant keep up with production? Will they end up creating restrictions on oil usage? hopefully not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CoolsBlue Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 everone in the uk should just stay home from work for a month, and see how badly they can get crippled LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
n boost Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I dont believe a word the gov't says anymore and firmly believe that it is all about money. Wars cost money and use a lot of fuel and the people have to work the backsides off so the gov'ts can keep wasting money and putting prices/taxes up. They come up with stories to fool people and justify there reasons for doing so. They know fuel is running out so are trying to make as much money from it before it runs out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSoop Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Right, I know that I am sick to death of being shafted by this bunch of tw4ts called New Labour and I'm sure I am not the only one. As Supra owners we are affected by the rising cost of petrol and also some of us by the new VED rates (silversoop!!!). It is all very well ranting on about it on forums like this, but what we really need to do is unite and make a stand so our voices (and exhausts!) are heard loud and clear by those muppets in Westminster. I think that we should organise a massive convoy (maybe get other car clubs to join us?) and drive to London to cause as much disruption as possible (but legally - I suppose ). we should all drive very slow and cause gridlock - just like some lorry drivers have been doing...... what do you all reckon? Im DEFINETELY in for this Andy! Especially after my rise in road tax and our rise in petrol/gas/electric/water...it just goes on and on! Taxes have gone up by 50% and 150 stealth taxes have been introduced since labour have been in power! 150!! I think we should all stand up and say no more! If labour back down like they did about the 10p tax row and we all generate enough buzz, maybe they might change things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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