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3sgte Conversion


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I remember it, and your avatar is a picture from Matchams Raceway, Burning Bournemouth IIRC.

 

I know WMMC quite well, a couple of mates have bought cars from them also.

 

Aah, i always wondered where that pic came from and now i know!

They have got a nice kitted Veilside TT down there for sale at 12k now! :D

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There is one of these in my town that has been up for sale for a while. I randomly met the new owner of it at Tesco the other day and got chatting. I knew more about it than he did ;) . It looked like a bit of a thrown together example but apparently it went well, and has run 11's at pod. He paid £6.5K for it, however im not sure what gearbox it g/box it had in it (was a manual though).

 

I 100% agree with TLicense on this, if i was building an all out track supra this is the way i would go about it. Lighter engine stroked to 2.2 pushing a responsive 500BHP and a fully stripped out shell would go very well in the corners with the right suspension setup. The better, lower centre of gravity and weight distribution of nigh on 50/50 would put alot of 4wd cars to shame.

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For me it boils down to money, 500bhp 2JZ = heavier but is going to take the abuse much longer than a 500bhp 3S, I know which I'd feel more content driving to trackdays across the country.

 

Asking a true 500 from a 3S lap after lap, day after day is IMHO gonna cost.

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There is one of these in my town that has been up for sale for a while. I randomly met the new owner of it at Tesco the other day and got chatting. I knew more about it than he did ;) . It looked like a bit of a thrown together example but apparently it went well, and has run 11's at pod. He paid £6.5K for it, however im not sure what gearbox it g/box it had in it (was a manual though).

 

Was it white?

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There is one of these in my town that has been up for sale for a while. I randomly met the new owner of it at Tesco the other day and got chatting. I knew more about it than he did ;) . It looked like a bit of a thrown together example but apparently it went well, and has run 11's at pod. He paid £6.5K for it, however im not sure what gearbox it g/box it had in it (was a manual though).

 

I 100% agree with TLicense on this, if i was building an all out track supra this is the way i would go about it. Lighter engine stroked to 2.2 pushing a responsive 500BHP and a fully stripped out shell would go very well in the corners with the right suspension setup. The better, lower centre of gravity and weight distribution of nigh on 50/50 would put alot of 4wd cars to shame.

 

Was it white?

 

Thats what I was going to ask! I went to see that car and it was a wreck, overspray, mis-aligned panels, etc, etc, etc. Engine also looked very sloppy!

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A 2.2 503E for me please.

 

Yep it was the 503E that was used in the IMSA GTO/GTP and Japan Touring car supras and IIRC the TS supra, similar in design to the 3sgte but no parts interchangeable.

Someone did do a 3sgte conversion, i posted up a link to it as it was for sale, but in all honesty it didnt look to great a job.

Ask any mr2 tubby or gt4 owner how hard/expensive it is to get 450+ reliably out of a 3sgte :(

 

Now for me, if you want to go 4 pot - then i would be looking at the 3sgte Beams turbo'd, mated with the 6 speed box, we have quite a few chasers over here running 500+ on that engine, and its packaged similarly to the 3sgte but dos'nt have the same longtitudual (sp) mounting problems that the 3sgte has, remember the older 3s is designed to mount in FW location at 30 degrees so requires modding the lube system.

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There was a white Supra on ebay about two months ago with a 3S-GTE lump. it looked like a right bodge up too........

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