4packet Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 The problem with modern high performance diesel engines is that I doubt very much it will run reliably on modern fuel with an increased content of Bio in it (problems are occurring already). There are a host of issues with bio that fuel injection equipment cannot cope with either short term or long term. Fuel temperature and lubricity are just two of the concerns that spring to mind. Either the fuel has to digress (mineral only) or the fuel systems and subsequent performance will have to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest veg oil man Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 its not a modern engine mate, 1992 16 years old. It has a few TRD bit and bobs and lots of boost and extra fuel (100% used filtered veg oil) Its done the last 15k miles on veg oil in a Toyota Hilux, it now time for a sports car to use all this power on the track/road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 What arrangements would you have to make to pay the excise duty on the veg oil? Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest veg oil man Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 there is no duty to be paid on the first 2500 litres of bio fuel used per person per year they changed the ruels last summer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboBrett Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 (edited) subscribed, id like to see this happen and you have already got a running engine so its just an engine transplant at the end of the day;) a few technical bits and bobs and its all done:D did you say its turbo dieselveg oil? even better;) Edited May 14, 2008 by TurboBrett (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 sorry to hijack but I wouldnt mind having a LPG conversion, aslong as I can have the lpg cap hidden some where, It came to mind if possible... If i had a trial rear end, where the diffusers are have it put in one of them and painted to match the lower part of the bumper ie black, then that way it would be hard to see but i wasnt sure if that would work or behind the reg plate, then have the reg on some sort of hindge so you can lift it up or just have the reg on magnets? All in all if its possible to switch from lpg to petrol so you can have power back for spirited runs then i would be all for it, I was under the impression that with lpg been around 105 to 115 ron that it should run a little better? also in 6 years its gone from the 30 mark to 60 mark so it hasnt raised that much and its sapped up from the north sea so shouldnt increas in cost's at a quick rate. only down side its about 2k for a decent conversion but least you get £20 off tax lol? Lew. You need to speak to GSW on the aristo forum. He gets more power from his lpg converted aristo than on petrol and at a fraction of the cost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dangerousandy Posted May 14, 2008 Share Posted May 14, 2008 I'd love to see some pics of this engine!!!! (yes I am sad) This is such a good idea, I wish i thought of it!! BTW I didn't know TRD did bits for the Amazon!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 If you used the LC's autobox, you could make a 4wd Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy-No-Knee Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I have an LPG Jeep Grand Cherokee (ok, not a sports car but I need it for the dog and its fun off road). The power from petrol is better than the power from the LPG, and around town LPG sucks mpg wise. On the motorway it isnt bad, but made up by the cheapness of the LPG. I know someone who LPGed his Soarer, but it was the V8, if someone has LPGed a Supra TT or an ariso then I would be intrested in knowing more. What aristo forum is he on? And finally, if you do use the Supra auto box you can get a suprastick to run the ecu I think. I have one on my Soarer and it runs it fine. Switchable between auto or manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Have you much experience in chemically changing used chip oil into bio diesel? Is it cost effective? Have all the big sources of used chip oil now been tapped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest veg oil man Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I make my living from collecting oil, dirty job with lots of lifting, pumping stinky liquids, etc. but i pays bloody well hense why i fancy a toy or 2 that burns the stuff I already run my van on it and couple of other cars, but i dont make bio diesel I use the oil just I fillter it first. There is 1000's of tons of the stuff still going down the plug hole every year! all of which could be used as fuel. its not only engines that burn this stuff, I have my house and work shop heating and power running on it No more gas or electric bills makes a big difference on top of no fuel costs with driving, I'm surprised not many others are at it yet rather than the silly windmills you see that just about power a fridge! I'm going to look at a Supra tonight, its a NA with a buggered engine so should be cheap i guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Staying tuned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Great idea, subscribed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx1lew Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 I make my living from collecting oil, dirty job with lots of lifting, pumping stinky liquids, etc. but i pays bloody well hense why i fancy a toy or 2 that burns the stuff I already run my van on it and couple of other cars, but i dont make bio diesel I use the oil just I fillter it first. There is 1000's of tons of the stuff still going down the plug hole every year! all of which could be used as fuel. its not only engines that burn this stuff, I have my house and work shop heating and power running on it No more gas or electric bills makes a big difference on top of no fuel costs with driving, I'm surprised not many others are at it yet rather than the silly windmills you see that just about power a fridge! I'm going to look at a Supra tonight, its a NA with a buggered engine so should be cheap i guess does the smell not get around, like stink the house out, if your using it for heating aswell as your car does it make you smell of chips? I would worry about smelling like a chippy but if it doesnth then its a fantastic idea, what do you have to do to run on it? I was told filter it 2x burn it to get rid of some chemical then add terps? Lew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 does the smell not get around, like stink the house out, if your using it for heating aswell as your car does it make you smell of chips? I would worry about smelling like a chippy but if it doesnth then its a fantastic idea, what do you have to do to run on it? I was told filter it 2x burn it to get rid of some chemical then add terps? Lew. Does any house with oil heaters smells with red diesel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Curious as to what's needed to convert a central heating boiler that runs normal domestic fuel oil to run on veggie, is it straightforward? I'll help where I can with the Supra power unit swap, but diesels are not my forte at all. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 (edited) What aristo forum is he on? Here you go Andy http://clubaristo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=14048 http://clubaristo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12982 http://clubaristo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=12627 http://clubaristo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=16219 http://clubaristo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=11504 ....if you do use the Supra auto box you can get a suprastick to run the ecu I think. I have one on my Soarer and it runs it fine. Switchable between auto or manual.I don't think it will work on the JZA80 because it has electronically-controlled line pressure, not cable-controlled. Edited May 15, 2008 by garethr (see edit history) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest veg oil man Posted May 15, 2008 Share Posted May 15, 2008 Curious as to what's needed to convert a central heating boiler that runs normal domestic fuel oil to run on veggie, is it straightforward? I'll help where I can with the Supra power unit swap, but diesels are not my forte at all. Cheers I have one of the oil boilers with a green 1000 litre tank in the garden, It's just got a different injector fitted to run on veg oil. There is no smell round the house or any difference to your heating, and the 1000 litre tank lasts so long! thanks for the offer on help i will remember that Went to see one tonight, think it had been in a smash on the rear end at some point so i walked away. one of the rears tyres was bald on the out side to as if it was leaning on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Any progress with this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluecoup Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 sounds like a good idea, not sure id like the noise, but if it goes then it goes i did see (on the gadget show i think) a machine that made bio diesel from old cooking oil but it was that stuff with the killing ethenol in that easts seals, pumps, mate runs his import shogun on oil, very funny when he wheels a trolly full out of asda and starts putting it in the tank, he does put a bit of diesel in to though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 very interesting. Ive seen the supra's engine in hilux's so i guess its not that hard. Good luck id love to drive that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I have fantasies about a twin-turbo diesel lump from a recent 5-series stuck into a Supra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L33 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 easy tiger ! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 easy tiger ! lol 560nm of torque at 2000 rpm. Who wouldn't want some of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I make my living from collecting oil, dirty job with lots of lifting, pumping stinky liquids, etc. but i pays bloody well hense why i fancy a toy or 2 that burns the stuff I already run my van on it and couple of other cars, but i dont make bio diesel I use the oil just I fillter it first. There is 1000's of tons of the stuff still going down the plug hole every year! all of which could be used as fuel. its not only engines that burn this stuff, I have my house and work shop heating and power running on it No more gas or electric bills makes a big difference on top of no fuel costs with driving, I'm surprised not many others are at it yet rather than the silly windmills you see that just about power a fridge! I'm going to look at a Supra tonight, its a NA with a buggered engine so should be cheap i guess Ok so can i run my heating from it? Currently using oil? Can you tell me how much it is? and can you supply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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