Homer Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Yet another "can't get this bl**dy thing off" thread from me I need to remove the hub and driveshaft from the passenger side rear. Everything is undone but I cannot get two of the ball joints to split themselves from the hub (pics below). They've been soaked overnight in penetrating fluid, have tried hitting them hard with a hammer, even tried a g-clamp to try and break them, but they refuse to part company. Any tips/tricks from anyone? Would it be easier to remove the whole lot with the upper and lower wishbone in place then split them while off the car? As with the other side (another mammoth job), I imagine things have gotten rather frozen in place due to the cars history... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Get a big hammer and hit it there - http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DannoSupra/Image062.jpg if all else fails you need a balljoint splitter - http://gwl.rmsolo.org/hacks/suspension/images/PC050034.jpg or http://www.minisport.com.au/images/ball_joint_spliter.jpg or if your really stuck - http://www.choiceful.com/prod_image/52052_m.jpg but you will damage the gaitor, only use the fork if your replacing the balljoint Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjones Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 you need a ball joint slitter mate and go careful slit the rubber and you will have to buy new i did this a few weeks back now i am waiting for replacements beat me to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieren1234 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Get a big hammer and hit it there - http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j75/DannoSupra/Image062.jpg if all else fails you need a balljoint splitter - http://gwl.rmsolo.org/hacks/suspension/images/PC050034.jpg or http://www.minisport.com.au/images/ball_joint_spliter.jpg or if your really stuck - http://www.choiceful.com/prod_image/52052_m.jpg but you will damage the gaitor, only use the fork if your replacing the balljoint DONT JUST HIT IT. I done this with a hammer and i then needed to get the trask rod end (part in question) replaced bacause it buggered it. Get the tool that splits a ball joint. It is like a chisel but has a big V cut out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieren1234 Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 you need a ball joint slitter mate and go careful slit the rubber and you will have to buy new i did this a few weeks back now i am waiting for replacements beat me to it I got mine from QSD performance on this forum (Jezz and Steve) for around £40 odd with next day delivery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Garfy Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Have you tried a ball joint spliter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Garfy Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 oops, should have refreshed the page before posting, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 You obviously hit the wrong part then didnt you... where i said to hit with a hammer its not part of the Ball Joint, so unless your aim is off, you hit the ball joint itself!!! Talk about tell a mechanic how to do his job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thanks guys (and for pointing out the obvious, it never occured there was a tool for this, even though knowing exactly what a ball joint splitter is ) Could do without damaging the ball joints so will pop into Halfords tomorrow and get the proper tool for the job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannoSupra Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 If you hit the Hub Part - where i said, you wont damage it... saves you spending more money on stuff u dont need!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezz Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Dont use a ball joint splitter!! They f*kc the rubbers up. The best way is Danno's way, good few blows with a big hammer (I use a copper hammer) exactly where he points out in that picture, they'll just drop out. If they dont, find someone to put a little pressure and lever them whilst you're hitting with the hammer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thanks Jezz, good tip. I'll give it another try tomorrow as you and Danno suggested This forum never fails to supply a good answer to problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmer Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 i've recently done my rear wheel bearing and had the same trouble. I heated the knuckle part as opposed to the ball joint itself with a blow torch, couple of hits with a hammer and it poped out. Came apart very easily with heat just got to be carefull not to burn the rubbers or cook the grease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezz Posted May 12, 2008 Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thanks Jezz, good tip. I'll give it another try tomorrow as you and Danno suggested This forum never fails to supply a good answer to problems Can you not remember me smacking sh*t out of that knuckle to get it off while you were looking around for 'screws'. Sucker came off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 12, 2008 Author Share Posted May 12, 2008 Can you not remember me smacking sh*t out of that knuckle to get it off while you were looking around for 'screws'. Sucker came off though. All I remember was a lot of blue language coming from the back of a Supra Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 Danno is correct, but get a helper to hold a big lump hammer on one side of the hub casting, at the point the ball joint goes through it, whilst you put a HARD blow with the ball of a ball pein hammer directly opposite it. The blow literally momentarily deforms the taper in the hub, and the grip it has on the taper of the ball joint stem is relaxed and it pops loose. Ball joint splitters work, but you'll be needing a new arm, as the boots are not available separately, and it WILL split the rubber. Its the cast iron hub casting you hit, and opposite the hit point you press another hammer hard on. The other hammer adds inertia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybhoy86 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 i'm about to tackle the same job to remove the upper arms, do you need to remove the driveshafts? or is there a way to work around not removing them? M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 You don't need to remove anything other than the wheel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickTT Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Get one of these from Halfords. http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_216931_langId_-1_categoryId_165469 Work much better than the chisel type splitters - I've never split a rubber yet using one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybhoy86 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 excellent i had checked the manual as wel and it says remove.didnt think i had to.cheers id b lost without this forum lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 i managed to split 1 with a balljoint spitter, not a chisel, without splitting the boot... guess i got lucky? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movistar Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 homer did this last night pic 1, use a ball joint splitter not the v type but the other as posted in the link from trickTT...whilst its under pressure give the casting a tap with a copper hammer, should pop off with a bit of a bang if very tight. Pic 2, i used a long bar and went under the top wishbone and levered against the rear sub frame, so one end is has a pivot point and the other was placed on a jack and then i jacked the whole lot up forcing the spring to compress a little end then got my persuading tool(hammer) and tap the casting on the hub around where the ball joint is...also comes off with a bit of a bang..best bit no damage and all rubbers ok...abit like measure twice cut once:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 21, 2009 Author Share Posted May 21, 2009 Thanks dude, but this thread is a year old, the problem was sorted the next day after using a basic ball joint splitter and following the advice from the folks that posted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 Get one of these from Halfords. http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_216931_langId_-1_categoryId_165469 Work much better than the chisel type splitters - I've never split a rubber yet using one. Where is the "laser"? Pah! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markybhoy86 Posted May 21, 2009 Share Posted May 21, 2009 i brought it up again asking if i had to remove the driveshaft rather than making a new post and getting told to use the search button cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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