Luka-P Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 lads and ladettes can anyone clear this up for me because i just cant get my head around it. want to take my cbt but still not sure of the whole rules regarding 16+ with 50cc 17+ with 125 etc etc. im 19 and have had my car licence for 2 yrs so without cbt what can i ride on the road legally? with cbt i can only go to 125 is this right? can i ride my own 125 to and on the cbt legally? it sounds a mess but i cant figure it out!! cheers folks:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 lads and ladettes can anyone clear this up for me because i just cant get my head around it. want to take my cbt but still not sure of the whole rules regarding 16+ with 50cc 17+ with 125 etc etc. im 19 and have had my car licence for 2 yrs so without cbt what can i ride on the road legally? with cbt i can only go to 125 is this right? can i ride my own 125 to and on the cbt legally? it sounds a mess but i cant figure it out!! cheers folks:blink: You need a cbt whatever you do mate, Even if you have been driving 50 years you still need to do it Compusory Basic Training you see Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 You need a cbt whatever you do mate, Even if you have been driving 50 years you still need to do it Compusory Basic Training you see Not true. If you have a full car licence, you are automatically entitled to ride a moped without L-Plates although if the licence relates to a car test passed on or after 1 February 2001 you must first complete a CBT course and obtain a DL196 Certificate to validate your entitlement. Your full car licence also gives you provisional motorcycle entitlement for learner machines (up to 125cc) i.e. you may ride a motorcycle as a learner with L-Plates and NO pillion passengers or motorway use after completing CBT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka-P Posted May 5, 2008 Author Share Posted May 5, 2008 right thats cleared some of it up cheers guys. what if i want to use my own 125 (saying i had one) for the cbt is this allowed? or would i have to use one of theirs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 right thats cleared some of it up cheers guys. what if i want to use my own 125 (saying i had one) for the cbt is this allowed? or would i have to use one of theirs? Yes as long as it learner legal, under 12bhp iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soaruss Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 http://www.vauntage.co.uk/cbt_licence_rules.htm All in here mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pig Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 right thats cleared some of it up cheers guys. what if i want to use my own 125 (saying i had one) for the cbt is this allowed? or would i have to use one of theirs? You can use your own bike but there is no point when you consider its only a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Not true. If you have a full car licence, you are automatically entitled to ride a moped without L-Plates although if the licence relates to a car test passed on or after 1 February 2001 you must first complete a CBT course and obtain a DL196 Certificate to validate your entitlement. Your full car licence also gives you provisional motorcycle entitlement for learner machines (up to 125cc) i.e. you may ride a motorcycle as a learner with L-Plates and NO pillion passengers or motorway use after completing CBT. I was told by the bloke who took me on my direct access everyone needs to do a cbt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I was told by the bloke who took me on my direct access everyone needs to do a cbt http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/DG_10016249 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/DG_10016249 Thats why i put a He was obviously a tosser and now made me look like one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Do you reckon you could remove your own brain with a fork? I mean surely you would needa knife or saw to get through the hard cranial bone areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Thats why i put a He was obviously a tosser and now made me look like one You didn't need his help mate:d;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Thats why i put a He was obviously a tosser and now made me look like one Lol. A few people will be creaming that statement Blackie. Not me though bud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 You didn't need his help mate:d;) Lol. A few people will be creaming that statement Blackie. Not me though bud. Balls to both of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 Balls to both of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DevilsAdvocate Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 You have to do a CBT regardless of how long you've held a car licence. The CBT is not a test, it's training but you do have to acheive a minimal standard before reciving the certificate. Once youv'e got your CBT you're allowed loose on the roads (with L plates of course, but don't imagine that any other road users are going to give you any quarter) you need to learn 'defensive riding' if you want to avoid broken limbs and a possible early exit from this mortal coil! You WILL fall off your bike a few times, and it will hurt - all part of the learning curve. Plenty of further and advanced riding courses out there I 'advise' you to consider them - Bikesafe with your local plod, and ROSPA are probably the best. DO NOTon passing your proper test buy a 'Blade', 'R6' 'R1' etc. I would prefer not to have to attend your funeral. Work your way up the cc and power range and gain experience. Motorcycling is very rewarding, riding well is far better than riding fast. Roy - 30 years biking, every limb been broken, five ribs and a haemothorax (punctured lung) Trust me I know what I'm talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 so can i just check - with a full driving license i got before 2001, i can ride a 125cc or a 50cc without doing my CBT again? is it anything over a 125cc and you need to take a proper test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 DO NOTon passing your proper test buy a 'Blade', 'R6' 'R1' etc. I would prefer not to have to attend your funeral. Work your way up the cc and power range and gain experience. He's right, I started on a low power Rf600, a month later got a cbr600, then a zx6, ( I had an rm250 when i was 15 though) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 so can i just check - with a full driving license i got before 2001, i can ride a 125cc or a 50cc without doing my CBT again? is it anything over a 125cc and you need to take a proper test? A moped is 49cc If you obtained your full car licence before 1 February 2001 you are automatically entitled to ride a moped without L-plates http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/DG_10016249 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 You have to do a CBT regardless of how long you've held a car licence. The CBT is not a test, it's training but you do have to acheive a minimal standard before reciving the certificate. Once youv'e got your CBT you're allowed loose on the roads (with L plates of course, but don't imagine that any other road users are going to give you any quarter) you need to learn 'defensive riding' if you want to avoid broken limbs and a possible early exit from this mortal coil! You WILL fall off your bike a few times, and it will hurt - all part of the learning curve. Plenty of further and advanced riding courses out there I 'advise' you to consider them - Bikesafe with your local plod, and ROSPA are probably the best. DO NOTon passing your proper test buy a 'Blade', 'R6' 'R1' etc. I would prefer not to have to attend your funeral. Work your way up the cc and power range and gain experience. Motorcycling is very rewarding, riding well is far better than riding fast. Roy - 30 years biking, every limb been broken, five ribs and a haemothorax (punctured lung) Trust me I know what I'm talking about Especially mine Haven't broken anything in 28 years. Been bloody lucky though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_d Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 just go for the bike you want first i say, i was 19 when i did my test so i had to be restricted i couldnt get a R1 because you couldnt get restrictor kits so i had to slum for the R6 instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 He's right, I started on a low power Rf600, a month later got a cbr600, then a zx6, ( I had an rm250 when i was 15 though) I had a brand new ZX6R for my first bike and wrote that off in 2 weeks, then i brought a new ZX9R and split the frame on that landing big wheelies, then got a T595 (900cc) flipped that doing a wheelie, that never did me a lot of good:d after that i had a few years of trouble free biking on various R1's, then the biggie..... broke my back in 3 places in 2001 on a K1 gsxr1000 (i could not walk for 6 months and had a full torso body cast, my wife had to wipe my arse for 9 weeks:d had about 5 years off biking then brought a ZX10R and fitted nos to it;) then decided to get another gsxr1000 (what was i thinking:blink:) and had a big near miss on that one day on my way home from turbofit, that was the last day i ever rode a superbike:d If that dont put you off bikes nothing will:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DevilsAdvocate Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 He's right, I started on a low power Rf600, a month later got a cbr600, then a zx6, ( I had an rm250 when i was 15 though) Hi Blackie & all, you must have been lucky, just like me. 250cc to 800cc at 17. GPZ1100 at 19, 130mph sideways on the M66 at 19 + 1 week and survived. Fecking gutless Guzzi V50 planted me into a wall and nearlly killed me. Good advice rather than bad influence needed here. Ta Roy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesy Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I had a brand new ZX6R for my first bike and wrote that off in 2 weeks, then i brought a new ZX9R and split the frame on that landing big wheelies, then got a T595 (900cc) flipped that doing a wheelie, that never did me a lot of good:d after that i had a few years of trouble free biking on various R1's, then the biggie..... broke my back in 3 places in 2001 on a K1 gsxr1000 (i could not walk for 6 months and had a full torso body cast, my wife had to wipe my arse for 9 weeks:d had about 5 years off biking then brought a ZX10R and fitted nos to it;) then decided to get another gsxr1000 (what was i thinking:blink:) and had a big near miss on that one day on my way home from turbofit, that was the last day i ever rode a superbike:d If that dont put you off bikes nothing will:d makes my crash on my Suzuki TS50X at 16 years old into a brick wall sound a bit lame fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted May 5, 2008 Share Posted May 5, 2008 I had a brand new ZX6R for my first bike and wrote that off in 2 weeks, then i brought a new ZX9R and split the frame on that landing big wheelies, then got a T595 (900cc) flipped that doing a wheelie, that never did me a lot of good:d after that i had a few years of trouble free biking on various R1's, then the biggie..... broke my back in 3 places in 2001 on a K1 gsxr1000 (i could not walk for 6 months and had a full torso body cast, my wife had to wipe my arse for 9 weeks:d had about 5 years off biking then brought a ZX10R and fitted nos to it;) then decided to get another gsxr1000 (what was i thinking:blink:) and had a big near miss on that one day on my way home from turbofit, that was the last day i ever rode a superbike:d If that dont put you off bikes nothing will:d Thats because your a nutter on a bike, I have seen the videos Good advice rather than bad influence needed here. Couldent agree more mate, Like you i have had bikes from a very young age but to the average bloke to "Learn" to ride a bike and then go and get some thing that will hit 150 in a blink of an eye is not really the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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