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How do you know when the engine is up to temp


Chase

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OK, so after starting, how lonh should you wait until 'putting your foot down'.

 

I realise the temp gauge is water temp, and I pretty much always wait until the needle reaches the half way point until putting my foot down. Am I being over cautious? A friend used to have a Nova GTE and would start putting his foot down when the temp needle started to go up.

 

Opinions?

 

Cheers

 

Edited as I typed fott twice! instead of foot

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Isn't the most important thing oil pressure and not temperature? I mean most NAs are 'reasonably' happy to go full on from cold (ish), but the turbos will need a nice clean high pressure oil flow round the bearings or else they'll be dead within a few runs!!

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Isn't the most important thing oil pressure and not temperature? I mean most NAs are 'reasonably' happy to go full on from cold (ish), but the turbos will need a nice clean high pressure oil flow round the bearings or else they'll be dead within a few runs!!

 

Skyline owners club go with the Oil Temp gauge before letting loose. I tend to wait until the water temp gauge has reached normal ops temp (which only takes a few minutes).

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Isn't the most important thing oil pressure and not temperature? I mean most NAs are 'reasonably' happy to go full on from cold (ish), but the turbos will need a nice clean high pressure oil flow round the bearings or else they'll be dead within a few runs!!

 

Oil pressure is higher when cold (its thicker), so the temp is more important (as long as you dont loose all youyr oil pressure :upside: )

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Isn't the most important thing oil pressure and not temperature? I mean most NAs are 'reasonably' happy to go full on from cold (ish), but the turbos will need a nice clean high pressure oil flow round the bearings or else they'll be dead within a few runs!!

 

Oil pressure will be higher on a cold engine than on a hot engine, you will notice the pressure drops slightly when the engine is warm, especially at idle. Also, oil takes longer to warm up than water, so going by the water temp gauge is a no no. Your water gauge will be on half way in about half a mile of driving, the oil will be no where near upto operating temp. :eyebrows:

 

EDIT to say... Shoud have read the post above first! :burp:

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OK so I was wrong then (damn). I assumed wrong but my theory is right though isn't it? The turbos really need the right oil consistency and pressure (and temperature?) for them to run properly without damage? But then I suppose that all comes down to oil temperature anyway (damn). I'll quit while I'm behind!! :p

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OK so I was wrong then (damn). I assumed wrong but my theory is right though isn't it? The turbos really need the right oil consistency and pressure (and temperature?) for them to run properly without damage? But then I suppose that all comes down to oil temperature anyway (damn). I'll quit while I'm behind!! :p

 

You are right in that they need good oil pressure, but pressure drops when the oil / engine is warm, so as long as the pressure is good when the engine/oil is warm then there is no problem.

 

I dont have an oil temp gauge, so I drive very easy for the first 5 miles of my journey from cold, no boost what so ever. It even ticks over for a minute or two while I jump out and lock the garage up too, but I never use the water temp as a guide as to when to put my foot down. :burp:

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OK - going slightly bonkers here for a second, but if the oil was at an acceptable pressure/viscosity but cold, wouldn't that be better for the turbos as it would cool them quicker?

 

Or do turbos have an optimal max and min temp? Is it possible to run turbos too cold?

 

OK, so I've started babbling and going off on tangents now :looney:

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