Doughie Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Alright you tyre techno-nerds. Just got my car back from it's annual MOT failure. They fitted a new "budget" tyre. Took a look at it and there is no "E" mark on it. Am i right in saying that unless a tyre has an "E" within a circle, then it is not legal for fitment in the UK ? If so they have stitched me up with a non-EC tyre. So any MOT experts / tyre experts out there pls let me know if it's kosher or not. cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 I'm not aware of any specific type aprovals re: tyres. Everything I've read says variations on the fit-for-purpose theme. Here's a good URL to look at http://www.doeni.gov.uk/dvta/prepare.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted August 1, 2002 Share Posted August 1, 2002 Ignore the previous link unless you're in Ulster - OOOPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doughie Posted August 1, 2002 Author Share Posted August 1, 2002 nope i live in London which ain't Ulster. anyway, a bit of Googling, and i find the following site : http://www.dunloptyres.co.uk/data/tyre/60tips.html#tip14 says : "Tyre suppliers commit an offence if they sell a passenger car radial ply tyre which does not have an 'E' mark showing that it complies with the load and speed requirements of ECE regulations. With certain exemptions (ie tyres for pre-1949 vehicles and for off-road and competition use), from 1 January 1997 new car and light trailer tyres (including 'VR' and 'ZR' radials) must be ECE or EU approved and 'E' or 'e' marked respectively (and from 1 June 1997 for motorcycle tyres). " so from that it looks like i've been sold a non-legal tyre by the MOt station. I shall be on the phone to them in the morning in my best "barrister" voice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 I don't know about tyres (although your right - that's what Dunlop seem to be saying).... But for brake pads, we can't supply them for a car manufactured after a certain date (I think it was ~ Jan' this year) without 'E' approval That means we can still supply/fit to cars made before 'that' date. Can't say we have really worried about it (yet) because we have checked with the pad manufacturers (Mintex/Lockheed, so far) and the 'E' standard neccessary is so low that ALL normal pads will ALWAYS meet it - it's purely a minimum standard and everyone already meets it ! ! Go and take a look at motorcycle clothing ! ! (prime example) The new "E-approved" gear is exactly the same as the old gear... INCLUDING the cheaper/nastier thin-leather type jackets... The ones that would rip if you rubbed them hard with a loofer let alone a nice gravel surface. The 'E' is no measure of how good it is ! It's as if you just BUY the approval and 'rubber-stamp' the goods. I'd rather have older/quality goods with no 'E' than newer/cheaper goods WITH an 'E'. [as I said, your probably dead right though - they STILL shouldn't FIT non-E if that's what the law states] I HATE EUROPEAN RED-TAPE UNLESS IT MAKES SOME REAL DIFFERENCE. BRING BACK PRAWN COCKTAIL AND SAVE-OUR-BENT-BANANAS ! ! BTW, the one thing that HAS changed is if we break (PUN) the seal on an 'E' box of pads, we can't return them to the seller ! ! The pads are USED once opened and THAT'S THAT ! ! ps. we don't sell tyres as-such but we buy them off a tyre place just for MOT's for regular customers... I WILL check the ones we have in stock and with THEM to find out if Dunlop statement right (in morning probably). steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Originally posted by Doughie Alright you tyre techno-nerds. Just got my car back from it's annual MOT failure. They fitted a new "budget" tyre. Took a look at it and there is no "E" mark on it. Am i right in saying that unless a tyre has an "E" within a circle, then it is not legal for fitment in the UK ? If so they have stitched me up with a non-EC tyre. So any MOT experts / tyre experts out there pls let me know if it's kosher or not. cheers After a booze with my MOT staion owning pal he was adamant that no "E" mark is illegal. Caveat: We were both a bit the worse for wear, but still coherent, so i am FAIRLY confident that he was right. He has offered to check withb the MOT people, but don't hold your breath, he was more interested in the woman on the stool at the end of the bar to be honest... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam W Posted August 2, 2002 Share Posted August 2, 2002 Did she have an E mark then? Or perhaps he was hoping to check? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Nick Harris Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 It maybe an >old With neither it is possible that it is a backdoor import and very dangerous. Look very carefully. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted August 3, 2002 Share Posted August 3, 2002 Originally posted by Adam Wootten Did she have an E mark then? Or perhaps he was hoping to check? Oh, she had all the right markings, believe me :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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