hadyn Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I've just seen a pic of a supra without a headlamp on and its exposed a funnel thats seemingly going into the stock airbox - am i right in thinking then that the stock airbox has two airfeeds to it - one you can see when you lift the bonnet and the other underneath the headlamp?? If so, i simply cannot see the point of an induction kit at all when you get that much cold air fed into your car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Correct on all points there mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 theres simply no attraction of an induction kit for me at all now, not even the bling why ruin an almost perfect set up? think i did the smart thing fitting a k&n panel to the airbox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Toyota didnt spend tens of millions of £ for some muppet to come along with a cheap ass cone filter to improve on the design. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 You did, sounds slightly throatier than stock as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 lol, shame they couldnt sort the road noise or boot rubbers out then with that budget!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 You did, sounds slightly throatier than stock as well. just switched it off tonight with the bonnet up and the k&n panel made the same 'sucking' noise as the blitz sus i used to have on my S14 - why bother losing performance with an induction kit eh kids?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 but ur nt kewl if u ant got teh well'ard Greedy SuperMegaAtomicMushroom Filter innit wotll the d00dz at maccy ds say ul b a laffing stock u mite getway wiv it if ur gota reely loud dumb vaulve tho innit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 but ur nt kewl if u ant got teh well'ard Greedy SuperMegaAtomicMushroom Filter innit wotll the d00dz at maccy ds say ul b a laffing stock u mite getway wiv it if ur gota reely loud dumb vaulve tho innit im fitting a hks ssqv soon to make up for my lack of rice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I just have the stock box with a K&N on mine - only downside I can come up with is that the pipe for my FMIC melted the 'hinge' on the airbox because it was touching it. As you say it's all very well designed as standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 im fitting a hks ssqv soon to make up for my lack of rice Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 lol, shame they couldnt sort the road noise or boot rubbers out then with that budget!! road noise varys alot with different tyre makes in my experience........what are yours? My cheapo winter tyres (StarPerformer yeh right! ) are very noisey compared to my non standard alloys and Goodyear F1's Also I think if all we are moaning about on a 10+yr old car are a few bits of rubber i think the budget was well spent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 Yep i do think the road noise has a lot to do with my cheapo funny branded jap spec tyres (made by toyo tho?!) obviously using the wrong compound for our crappy roads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 could be, i honestly thought something was up, brakes / wheel bearing wise when i first put my winter wheels on.......very noisy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I'm waving the "big single turbo" flag as an excuse for a) my mahoosive K&N filter and b) the BOV I've still got both ducts though, and the under-headlight one I've drilled holes in the bottom so it can get air in from the cavity under the headlight. Christ knows if it helps but it was a free mod heh Should have a custom heat shield for the K&N soon, once I can persuade my Land Rover rolling chum to make it for me. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 Surely it's only off the line that an open cone causes a problem anyway? At motorway speeds there's enough cold air going in to not have to worry, but you just get more air going through. This thread sounds like 50% of the threads on the MG ZR forum! I used to be worried about losing 3bhp!! Now it seems like a small ammount to bother caring about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 I've just seen a pic of a supra without a headlamp on and its exposed a funnel thats seemingly going into the stock airbox - am i right in thinking then that the stock airbox has two airfeeds to it - one you can see when you lift the bonnet and the other underneath the headlamp?? If so, i simply cannot see the point of an induction kit at all when you get that much cold air fed into your car The problem is a lot of "upgrades" people do are actually "downgrades", I can't even remember how long I have been saying that most air filter "upgrades" are a waste of money.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 I'll be completely honest, I've put induction kits on my cars for these reasons : 1) They sound great (IMO) 2) They look much better than the plastic box 3) I was misinformed about them increasing performance. A few years ago, I admit to buying a Vectra 2.6 V6 GSi. I sold it after four months because it was turd, but in that time I bought a K&N induction kit. Within a week I'd swapped it for a K&N Panel Filter, and the performance was much better. However, I really don't want to go back to that big plastic box in the Supra. So if this is not an option, what is the best air intake system ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 8, 2005 Share Posted February 8, 2005 I went cone thing for a few months but then realised it was killling the power in hot weather. Gone back to the plastic box now, but never been a one for bling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Heat is obviously a bad thing. All I know is my Blitz induction increases my boost by 2psi, so it's staying on If you are sticking with stock it might be an idea to use a TRD air filter in the stock box, as they claim in flows more air than the stock filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slick Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 So how does something like the MVP airbox/filter combo fair in all this? Obviously its more bling than the OE box but it still uses the existing air intakes while shielding the cone. So you'll get the sound and looks of an induction kit without hopefully as much heat, but will the shielding be as good? Would this be a better solution if you really wanted the looks/sound without too much of a problem? http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/merchant/catalogpics/mk4/gary/pic05.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Heat is obviously a bad thing. All I know is my Blitz induction increases my boost by 2psi, so it's staying on If you are sticking with stock it might be an idea to use a TRD air filter in the stock box, as they claim in flows more air than the stock filter.I have used a TRD filter but now use a Toms Race filte, every bit as good as my cone on a cold day, but in any conditions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 So how does something like the MVP airbox/filter combo fair in all this? Obviously its more bling than the OE box but it still uses the existing air intakes while shielding the cone. So you'll get the sound and looks of an induction kit without hopefully as much heat, but will the shielding be as good? Would this be a better solution if you really wanted the looks/sound without too much of a problem? http://www.mvpmotorsports.com/merchant/catalogpics/mk4/gary/pic05.jpg Can't see the point - spend it elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 Heat is obviously a bad thing. All I know is my Blitz induction increases my boost by 2psi, so it's staying on If you are sticking with stock it might be an idea to use a TRD air filter in the stock box, as they claim in flows more air than the stock filter. Pressure V air density.... you are not comparing apples with apples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrAngry Posted February 9, 2005 Share Posted February 9, 2005 I have gained 0.1 bar boost from my change of induction it's running at 0.9 bar now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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