Gordon Brown - Finished

[garethr]

Anybody who cancels id cards, takes a critical look at the whole "man made global warming" panic, and stops councils fining people 110 quid for leaving their bin lids open.

[carl0s]

You must all vote for your local conservative candidate at the local elections, otherwise nothing will change with this over-taxed over-nanny'd country.

 

No point voting for a minority party. It'll either be a labour government again or conservative..

[Charlotte]

David Cameron is a drip.

[Havard]

David Cameron is a drip.

 

Maybe, but at least he talks some sense. I hate politicians but there aren't many that seem to notice what is happening on the street.

 

I really hope somebody does sort this place out or I'm off abroad to somewhere that I don't understand the language! Ignorance is bliss.....

 

H.

[Charlotte]

Maybe, but at least he talks some sense. I hate politicians but there aren't many that seem to notice what is happening on the street.

 

I really hope somebody does sort this place out or I'm off abroad to somewhere that I don't understand the language! Ignorance is bliss.....

 

H.

 

I saw something on tv the other day, can't remember what channel but Cameron was preaching on about cycling to work in and around London and how we should all make sure we do it in a safe way - so the Mirror followed him and he jumped loads of lights, completely didn't follow the highway code. Hmmm good example setting much?

 

He's trying to appeal the masses by playing guitar (TB in his hay day) and leaking stories of smoking pot at uni.

 

I suppose someone in charge really should be able to sort out finances, ie someone who was Chancellor, but even that seems to fail.

[Havard]

I saw something on tv the other day, can't remember what channel but Cameron was preaching on about cycling to work in and around London and how we should all make sure we do it in a safe way - so the Mirror followed him and he jumped loads of lights, completely didn't follow the highway code. Hmmm good example setting much?

 

He's trying to appeal the masses by playing guitar (TB in his hay day) and leaking stories of smoking pot at uni.

 

I suppose someone in charge really should be able to sort out finances, ie someone who was Chancellor, but even that seems to fail.

 

At the end of the day, they are all muppets but he's the best of a bad bunch for me!!

 

H.

[AshBhp]

lol, good call - howver they allready have asian members "apparently"

 

http://64.233.183.104/search?q=cache:xHBAj8jOcGEJ:uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index%3Fqid%3D20080110124745AAcGahG+BNP+AND+ASIAN+MEMBERS&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=9&gl=uk

 

 

Not so, quote below.

 

I see that 'Bluetit' makes an appearance on this page to give a response. 'Bluetit' isn't - as he claims - Black, he's Roy West a White BNP member and former candidate (he lost badly) in the last Dukinfield (Manchester) Council election. Such is the lack of support for the BNP that he spends his time masquerading as different people by opening multiple accounts and spamming YA!

 

***EDIT***

 

Ah the old myth about the BNP and Jewish members. Well they had one, just take a look at how warmly her membership was welcomed:

 

http://www.stopthebnp.org.uk/index.php?l...

[michael]

I used to think that the BNP would get somewhere eventually as I naively thought that they actually wanted British values. After watching a couple of documentaries they are just a bunch of racist bigots who will just judge you by what colour you are and not what you bring to the country!

 

Let's not get carried away here - the media can present a story in whatever way they decide will make the best TV show, I'm pretty sure they will have selected the folks in the documentaries very carefully in order to put across the angle they wanted people to see.

 

I would imagine that they could also roll out a huge array of racists who support the Conservative, Labour, Liberal and Green parties if they wanted to but then that wouldn't fit with the cliché and it probably wouldn't be watched by millions of people and therefore not sell as much advertising.

 

Don't get me wrong here, I do feel that the BNP has a rogue element to it that's unacceptable but at the same time I suspect that element also exists elsewhere too.

 

By this token I would be dead as it was an Asian doctor who saved my life after the British ones had achieved an Epic Fail..!!

 

So in other words you are saying we should support a party that only allows British doctors (I presume you mean white ones too because that's how you tell people are British isn't it?) because it would have saved us from you?

 

What if it had been a British Asian doctor? "Ooo I can't help, I'm British... oh hang on I'm Asian too, maybe I can... cup o' tea? Argh... torn...." *sigh*

[squiffy]

Mr J Clarkson

 

if only!

[Havard]

So in other words you are saying we should support a party that only allows British doctors (I presume you mean white ones too because that's how you tell people are British isn't it?) because it would have saved us from you?

 

What if it had been a British Asian doctor? "Ooo I can't help, I'm British... oh hang on I'm Asian too, maybe I can... cup o' tea? Argh... torn...." *sigh*

 

Maybe the word "British" was a bad choice of phrase. I love the way you pick out an argument Michael. I suppose we could base the whole of the country's immigration issues on the basis that I had the correct diagnosis from an Asian doctor after two "white" doctors had failed spectacularly but I feel this would be a bit silly.

 

My point was that if the BNP had only white people in this country then it would have affected me personally at that time. Maybe I should start a website/petition that only Asian doctors can work in the NHS then we'd ALL live longer.......FFS...

 

There is middle ground in everything Mr C. I would imagine you could find a better way of insulting my intelligence than picking on my last post. Give me one on Geography, eh?

 

H.

[Max Headroom]

People still seem to have forgotten that when the Tories where in power there was a Chancellor who actually got rid of a tax every year, think it was Lamont, not sure. With this bunch of shysters soon the only things that will be free of tax will be the air we breathe.

 

They are certainly not the party of the people, there is no incentive to work or better yourself, if you earn £200 a week and get a job earning £300 a week, you actually see a rise in your wages of £8.47 after the additional tax and loss in benefits.

 

They scrapped the 10p tax, which hit the poorest paid, yet promise £500 billion to the fatcat banks. If you live in the country, you need a car to get around, because there is no reliable public transport. As an example there are two buses to the local big town, Hereford one going at 08.20 in the morning and one at 16.30 in the evening. A car is a necessity, but is seen as a cash cow by the government, under the guise of green issues.

 

Thats a thing, I want to do my bit for the environment, but I dont want to be paying the whole world's share. The governments "green policy" includes financing a factory in India the emits the same amount of CO2 as the whole of the UK. What the feck are China and India doing about "green issues"!!!!!!!

 

The list goes on, we are the most heavily surveillanced society in the world, all under the threat from "terrorism". It was never this bad when we had our own home grown terrorists in the 70s and 80s.

 

Our benefits system is open to widescale fraud, it has gone from being a stopgap to being the main income for some of the most feckless, why work or get married when you can pop out a dozen children by different fathers and get the state, meaning you and I, to pay for it. It is not difficult to see why people stay on benefits when they can claim for most things, yet someone who is working, married and earning around 16K a year gets feck all help and is taxed the most.

[Havard]

People still seem to have forgotten that when the Tories where in power there was a Chancellor who actually got rid of a tax every year, think it was Lamont, not sure. With this bunch of shysters soon the only things that will be free of tax will be the air we breathe.

 

They are certainly not the party of the people, there is no incentive to work or better yourself, if you earn £200 a week and get a job earning £300 a week, you actually see a rise in your wages of £8.47 after the additional tax and loss in benefits.

 

They scrapped the 10p tax, which hit the poorest paid, yet promise £500 billion to the fatcat banks. If you live in the country, you need a car to get around, because there is no reliable public transport. As an example there are two buses to the local big town, Hereford one going at 08.20 in the morning and one at 16.30 in the evening. A car is a necessity, but is seen as a cash cow by the government, under the guise of green issues.

 

Thats a thing, I want to do my bit for the environment, but I dont want to be paying the whole world's share. The governments "green policy" includes financing a factory in India the emits the same amount of CO2 as the whole of the UK. What the feck are China and India doing about "green issues"!!!!!!!

 

The list goes on, we are the most heavily surveillanced society in the world, all under the threat from "terrorism". It was never this bad when we had our own home grown terrorists in the 70s and 80s.

 

Our benefits system is open to widescale fraud, it has gone from being a stopgap to being the main income for some of the most feckless, why work or get married when you can pop out a dozen children by different fathers and get the state, meaning you and I, to pay for it. It is not difficult to see why people stay on benefits when they can claim for most things, yet someone who is working, married and earning around 16K a year gets feck all help and is taxed the most.

 

Great post!!

 

Hit the nail on the head for me. What I don't understand is WHY politicians don't seem to see it the same way. There a number of things that are "wrong" in our society but these apparently intelligent people seem oblivious to the problem!

 

You can go on any internet forum, into any work canteen etc and people will tell you what is wrong. I would imagine beaurocracy or just plain apathy is the main culprit!

 

H.

[Shadow Beast]

People still seem to have forgotten that when the Tories where in power there was a Chancellor who actually got rid of a tax every year, think it was Lamont, not sure. With this bunch of shysters soon the only things that will be free of tax will be the air we breathe.

 

They are certainly not the party of the people, there is no incentive to work or better yourself, if you earn £200 a week and get a job earning £300 a week, you actually see a rise in your wages of £8.47 after the additional tax and loss in benefits.

 

They scrapped the 10p tax, which hit the poorest paid, yet promise £500 billion to the fatcat banks. If you live in the country, you need a car to get around, because there is no reliable public transport. As an example there are two buses to the local big town, Hereford one going at 08.20 in the morning and one at 16.30 in the evening. A car is a necessity, but is seen as a cash cow by the government, under the guise of green issues.

 

Thats a thing, I want to do my bit for the environment, but I dont want to be paying the whole world's share. The governments "green policy" includes financing a factory in India the emits the same amount of CO2 as the whole of the UK. What the feck are China and India doing about "green issues"!!!!!!!

 

The list goes on, we are the most heavily surveillanced society in the world, all under the threat from "terrorism". It was never this bad when we had our own home grown terrorists in the 70s and 80s.

 

Our benefits system is open to widescale fraud, it has gone from being a stopgap to being the main income for some of the most feckless, why work or get married when you can pop out a dozen children by different fathers and get the state, meaning you and I, to pay for it. It is not difficult to see why people stay on benefits when they can claim for most things, yet someone who is working, married and earning around 16K a year gets feck all help and is taxed the most.

 

Good post that, i dont suppose you fancy running for PM do you?

 

richie

[michael]

Maybe the word "British" was a bad choice of phrase.

 

Very much so.

 

I love the way you pick out an argument Michael.

 

Why is that if I reply it's an arguement but for everyone else it's just them having a discussion?

 

I suppose we could base the whole of the country's immigration issues on the basis that I had the correct diagnosis from an Asian doctor after two "white" doctors had failed spectacularly but I feel this would be a bit silly.

 

Silly but something you are already hinting at in your earlier replies.

 

Are those two "white" doctors (who I presume were born and trained here and you checked this?) a fair representation of every white doctor in the UK? Was your "Asian" chap a fair representation of every "coloured" doctor currently working? Or maybe you just got the chap who was trained a particular field or specialised in your particular issue?

 

I worked in medical recruitment for a while, I came across doctors from all over the world, they are a mixed bunch, like people in other trades.

 

My point was that if the BNP only white people in this country then it would have affected me personally at that time. Maybe I should start a website/petition that only Asian doctors can work in the NHS then we'd ALL live longer.......FFS...

 

Do the BNP only want white people in the country then?

 

I suspect we wouldn't live longer anyway - I had to stop using a lot more Indian (and by Indian I mean doctors from India) docs than British ones when I did recruitment, they kept killing people, it was annoying because it was usually the hard working ones too. Or are my own experiences just a small pocket of happenings in a rather big arena? Probably.

 

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There is middle ground in everything Mr C. I would imagine you could find a better way of insulting my intelligence than picking on my last post. Give me one on Geography, eh?

 

Why am I insulting your intelligence? Why would I need to? Your own post does a perfectly good job of making you look a little bit silly I'm not picking on you, your comments were the only ones I felt I needed to reply to, you sparked my interest in the thread, be proud.

 

Q: The Gambia is a located within which country?

 

* Angola

* Senegal

* Ghana

* Sudan

[DamanC]

Brown = washed out puddle

Cameron = drip

 

Labour = c0ck up

Conservative = talk sence

 

I dont vote for the man in charge, I vote for the party and what it stands for.

[and1c]

I will vote for whoever puts a VP Import race fuel pump in every petrol station and reduces the price of fuel by 50% to pre 'CRAZY' prices.

 

I had to pay £1.19 per litre for crappy normal unleaded the other day for a van

Its all wrong now that the price counter overtakes the quantity counter when you are filling up...

[Charlotte]

 

I dont vote for the man in charge, I vote for the party and what it stands for.

 

That's what happened in America with the Bush administration.

[Havard]

 

 

 

Why is that if I reply it's an arguement but for everyone else it's just them having a discussion?

 

Maybe it's the way you post!

 

 

Silly but something you are already hinting at in your earlier replies.

 

Are those two "white" doctors (who I presume were born and trained here and you checked this?) a fair representation of every white doctor in the UK? Was your "Asian" chap a fair representation of every "coloured" doctor currently working? Or maybe you just got the chap who was trained a particular field or specialised in your particular issue?

 

I worked in medical recruitment for a while, I came across doctors from all over the world, they are a mixed bunch, like people in other trades.

 

That was my point!!

 

 

 

Why am I insulting your intelligence? Why would I need to? Your own post does a perfectly good job of making you look a little bit silly I'm not picking on you, your comments were the only ones I felt I needed to reply to, you sparked my interest in the thread, be proud.

 

I was unaware that having an opinion that differs to yours, makes people look silly! I'll just crawl back into my hole.....

 

 

Q: The Gambia is a located within which country?

 

* Angola

* Senegal

* Ghana

* Sudan

 

I'll take a guess at Ghana as I can't be arsed googling it!

 

H.

[michael]

Here's a handful of smilies, scatter them around to following as you read to take the edge off things... :innocent:

 

Maybe it's the way you post!

 

Or the way you read?

 

That was my point!!

 

Really? You didn't put it across very well if that's the case.

 

I was unaware that having an opinion that differs to yours, makes people look silly! I'll just crawl back into my hole.....

 

It wasn't so much that your opinion was different to mine, it was more the fact that your opinion was silly I think

 

I'll take a guess at Ghana as I can't be arsed googling it!

 

Sorry, it's Senegal, not a good morning for you really

 

[DJButler]

David Cameron is a drip.

 

I guess that makes Gordon an ocean!!!!!!!

[Havard]

Here's a handful of smilies, scatter them around to following as you read to take the edge off things... :innocent:

 

 

 

Or the way you read?

 

 

 

Really? You didn't put it across very well if that's the case.

 

 

 

It wasn't so much that your opinion was different to mine, it was more the fact that your opinion was silly I think

 

 

 

Sorry, it's Senegal, not a good morning for you really

 

 

I would imagine you could argue with your own shadow Michael and although I feel I have wasted my time exchanging posts with you, I do actually feel that I have learned something!

 

Senegal eh? I wanted to guess that but changed my mind.....

 

H.

[SilverSoop]

You got amazingly strong feelings about the man. Cant say i feel the same. Got respect for him.. How is your guy david going to be better? Do you remember what it was like under thatcher and major? David seems like a nice guy. In fact all me then seen damn good. My favourite was paddy ashdown. Oh and why you say our pm is a thief? Is it because of taxes? Did you feel good about the conservatives before david? Cheers man. Respect.

 

Its just because he thinks of ways to tax us more and more so he and his team can benefit on behalf of us. Since brown has been in power,

120 stealth taxes have been introduced!!

Thats just incredible...

Brown has backpeddled somewhat since labour and the conservatives rebelled against the 10p tax row which was completely wrong-even some

of labour party thought it was wrong!

I think david and the conservatives could be better for us all because after the damage labour have done, they are saying it will take 4 years

to correct the damage and they have got the people in mind. What kind of pm and chancellor introduces the 10p tax bracket and then

takes it away from the people most affected by it...rediculous!!!

Luckily where i live, it is a conservative place, the bins are collected weekly. Under labour though, it would every 2 WEEKS!

Its not hygenic and they just dont care about the people...only themselves and their revenue! What annoys me the most though,

is that the chavs are getting paid off of our hard earned money!

Doesnt that annoy you???

[SilverSoop]

I saw something on tv the other day, can't remember what channel but Cameron was preaching on about cycling to work in and around London and how we should all make sure we do it in a safe way - so the Mirror followed him and he jumped loads of lights, completely didn't follow the highway code. Hmmm good example setting much?

 

He's trying to appeal the masses by playing guitar (TB in his hay day) and leaking stories of smoking pot at uni.

 

I suppose someone in charge really should be able to sort out finances, ie someone who was Chancellor, but even that seems to fail.

 

Yeh that is very true. People though do have their bad side and i bet he regrets that. I do truly believe though, that david and the conservative party can help us.

Labour though, they just take the p*ss out of us and we just sit back and take it!!

The only people voting for labour are the people on benefits. If conservatives were in, that wouldnt happen. If you dont work, you dont earn. Thats the way it should be! Its just so wrong that you dont have to work but you can still earn!

How does that work?!

[Firestorm]

the irony being is that it doesnt matter if we vote or not. sorry if this sounds negative but i really dont trust any government figure. i beleive they get into politics to change the country but it doesn happend cos their meerly puppet. they promise us crap that doesnt happen for votes. we dont actually get to decide whats rite for the country.

[Max Headroom]

We were promised a referendum on the EU treaty, we never got it, Why? because the politicians knew better. They forgot WE voted them in!!

 

The Conservatives were hounded out of government because of sleaze, but Labours record on sleaze is far worse, yet we accept it!! I would accept a politician whose only sin was to ride a bike through a red light than a minister who fraudulently made a mortgage statement and was not prosecuted and was sacked not once but twice!! AND is now shuffling his snout in the corrupt trough of the EU