merckx Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 Here's a pic of my HID lights. Taken at 20m then zoomed in to compare with "Terminators " Hope you don't mind, a good comparison OS - Normal bulb NS - HID http://img54.exs.cx/img54/2245/mycraplights9fb.jpg Terminators lights http://img54.exs.cx/img54/2325/oshidnsstockjdmbulb20m2ap.jpg What do think of mine , honest opinions appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I'd rather see a picture of the beam against a wall or garage door. Does it have the proper sharp cut-off like HIDs are supposed to? How do you rate them? How much of an improvement are they? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 When you put them against the wall you can notice the cut off, when driving I can only see the cut off on the off side. I would say I've got a marginal improvement but nowhere near as good as I expected.The kerb is lit up pretty well but hardly any improvement looking forward. When you look at Terminators there's such an obvious difference between the normal bulb and the HID, not with mine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 To be honest they don't seemed to have made much difference, Termi's pic seems to show a dramatic change in the HID side. It is only a picture but I wouldn't have thought they have changed your driving experience from inside the car by much? Not impressed TBH Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 It is only a picture but I wouldn't have thought they have changed your driving experience from inside the car by much? Not impressed TBH Paul I agree, they're crap! Like to see the results from others that bought them from the Group buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I agree, they're crap! Like to see the results from others that bought them from the Group buy. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for! I just went back over the GB thread and he does do a money back offer although it's with a 15% re-stock, better than nothing but I would be loathed to even pay 15% if they really are this shite! Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 The reason me and Lightwave didn't take part in that group buy was because of warnings about counterfeit 'Philips' HID kits. TBH, I was tempted to have a set until I saw that lights with K ratings that, as far I can tell, Philips have never made were being advertised. I'm not saying they are fakes but there was enough of the warning signs to put me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 The reason me and Lightwave didn't take part in that group buy was because of warnings about counterfeit 'Philips' HID kits. TBH, I was tempted to have a set until I saw that lights with K ratings that, as far I can tell, Philips have never made were being advertised. I'm not saying they are fakes but there was enough of the warning signs to put me off. If they performed well then I wouldn't care if they were fakes (question mark over how long they will last though?). Having seen the dramatic difference from Termi's photo it seems to point in that direction? I was looking at getting a set of these too!! Best to wait for more results before we condem though. Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 The reason me and Lightwave didn't take part in that group buy was because of warnings about counterfeit 'Philips' HID kits. TBH, I was tempted to have a set until I saw that lights with K ratings that, as far I can tell, Philips have never made were being advertised. I'm not saying they are fakes but there was enough of the warning signs to put me off. I would like to find out if Philips HID bulbs can be identified as being original ! Mine don't have any markings on them at all, just a sticky label on the plastic box. I think I'll do a bit of research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 not gonna fit mine yet - any comment from peter ? or anyone else who has fitted them ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 I've just emailed Philips to ask if the parts can be identified as being original. Philips web site: http://www.lighting.philips.com/in_en/consumer/carlighting/products/for_your_car/xenon/xenon.php?main=gb_en&parent=1_3&id=in_en_car_lighting&lang=en Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Man Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 I fitted mine , good but not that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 6, 2005 Author Share Posted February 6, 2005 I fitted mine , good but not that good Any pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Performa Posted February 6, 2005 Share Posted February 6, 2005 merckx i had a close look on one of the bulb, on the bottom there is a laser printed mark with 'use phillips burner' i am very interested and welcome with any comments on those hid's, are they not bright enough or whats missing in the kit that this kit does not have? or is it the colour of the bulb is not what u expected? this is the one i have installed before http://www.performance-solution.co.uk/contents/media/SV300093.JPG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 merckx i had a close look on one of the bulb, on the bottom there is a laser printed mark with 'use phillips burner' I cannot see any markings on mine! Surely there would be some on original Philips parts. No problems fitting the kit to the car. I was expecting them to be much brighter than they are though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Mine have no markings and it looks like (on the philips website) the markings are pretty obvious. Terminator/Jake/Lightwave/Nic - could you please tell us/me what the bulb code should be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 Alex, I've just done a bit of research and have found a useful website. Philips do not make the HID bulb with a 9006 fitting. They are manufactured with a fitting that only allows them to be used in HID lenses and are not for replacing the halogen bulb with a HID one like we want to do. Very interesting, have a good read, look at - " How to recognize the real Philips Ultinon HID bulb from a clone? "- click on the pic. http://faqlight.carpassion.info/hl-hid-bulbs.htm Main site is : http://faqlight.carpassion.info/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I can’t believe how much brighter my lamps look in the two photos in this thread. I'll try and get some pics of beam cut off against a dark wall. The cut off is brilliant, a very shape line. It needs it, as they are so bright they would dazzle if there was any gradual flare. The side of the road illumination is very good too. As I have said before I have 130/100 bulbs in one of my other cars. My new HID dipped beams are much better than those. I can’t fault them, for safety my next best mod to UK brakes and RLTC, night driving is now a pleasure as I can see everything. I don’t care about warm up I am going main beam next. If they do fogs I’ll have those as well. If anyone wants to see my dipped beams at night, in action let me know as the camera just can’t do them justice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Just for reference this is the beam pattern. Absolutly no flare. I used to get flashed with my stock JDM lights when my MOT tester wound therm up to the top of the MOT limit for me, but i still could not see where I was going. I have only beem flashed once since fitting the HID and I think that was because the guy caught the NS high edge of the beam as I came out of a corner. I think garage doors are too reflective to be of any use when taking pics of lights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 got HID from S****store a couple of years ago.. 8000K, and they have run just fine, no problems.. and they make driving at night a pleasure.. you can see cats eyes for hundreds of yards and roadside signs are really well lit.... as mentioned earlier, they are a great safety addition. James Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2005 Author Share Posted February 7, 2005 Cheers for the pic Terminator, how close are you to the wall? Your beam pattern looks fairly high. Those of you that also got your HID kits from the recent group buy, when are you going to get them fitted so we can make a few comparisons. You don't have to fit them in permanently, it would only take half an hour or so to get them working! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Was gonna get em fitted end of feb - but not sure now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
China Man Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I got mine fitted, Terminator can we meet up sometime in the dark.... no funny business there tho China Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 I got mine fitted, Terminator can we meet up sometime in the dark.... no funny business there tho China Good idea China keep us posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 7, 2005 Share Posted February 7, 2005 Cheers for the pic Terminator, how close are you to the wall? Your beam pattern looks fairly high. Those of you that also got your HID kits from the recent group buy, when are you going to get them fitted so we can make a few comparisons. You don't have to fit them in permanently, it would only take half an hour or so to get them working!The front of the car was slightly raised and tilted to the NS due to a tarmac bump under OS front, I guess about 10 feet from the wall, I did not take much notice. You can plug and play in a few minutes the hardest part is getting the bulbs in and out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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