kslb Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 So what is the chances of an N/A passing an MOT without cats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I passed my emmisons with 1st decat, I recon I could pass double decat but every car varies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 the problem you have is that the car should fail if it hasnt got any cats regardless of the emission test... If its passed its coz the MOT tester is overlooking the fact, and if caught wont be an MOT tester long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslb Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 the problem you have is that the car should fail if it hasnt got any cats regardless of the emission test... If its passed its coz the MOT tester is overlooking the fact, and if caught wont be an MOT tester long Why regardless of the emissions test? Surely if it passes the emissions its ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickTT Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 the problem you have is that the car should fail if it hasnt got any cats regardless of the emission test... If its passed its coz the MOT tester is overlooking the fact, and if caught wont be an MOT tester long There is no law that says a car must have a cat, only that it must pass an emissions test. In practice that usualy means a cat, but if you could get the right numbers on the test without one (unlikley) you would still pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslb Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 There is no law that says a car must have a cat, only that it must pass an emissions test. In practice that usualy means a cat, but if you could get the right numbers on the test without one (unlikley) you would still pass. Thats what i thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I told my MOT guy I took 1 cat out and he didn't say anything... as long as it passes on the day its ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 all UK car have a CAT fitted from mid 92 onwards. Import cars need to have a CAT fitted from 95 onwards. I had a chat with the local MOT chap. He passed my JSpec witout CAT's "The catalyst test is part of the MOT test for most class IV spark ignition petrol engined passenger cars with four or more wheels first used on and after 1 August 1992" * so, if you UK car is 1993 on, it automatically put though the catalyst test. * Taken from MOT testers hand book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Friendly MOT stations are great!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Ok, I am going to ask a real dumb question here but how do you know if you have cats on your Car or not as I wouldn't have the first idea how to check? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslb Posted April 9, 2008 Author Share Posted April 9, 2008 Ok, I am going to ask a real dumb question here but how do you know if you have cats on your Car or not as I wouldn't have the first idea how to check? If you have your car on ramps or axlestands you can clearly see both. They look a bit like small silencer boxes on the exhaust but are nearer the front of the car than the silencers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 If you have your car on ramps or axlestands you can clearly see both. They look a bit like small silencer boxes on the exhaust but are nearer the front of the car than the silencers. Well I will have try to and squeeze myself under somehow because I can't jack it up, my Jack won't fit under the body kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swampy442 Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Post 95 imports need cats, I thought it was 93 for UK cars? Just to give you an idea my 92 Soarer pissed the emmissions with a smoking turbo and no cat, unless you have serious problems its unlikely you'll fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 According to my MOT tester, imports are not listed for emissions, so no figure to test for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 According to my MOT tester, imports are not listed for emissions, so no figure to test for. Handy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Ok, I am going to ask a real dumb question here but how do you know if you have cats on your Car or not as I wouldn't have the first idea how to check? Place a plate of milk under your car, if its gone in the morning then you have cats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 all UK car have a CAT fitted from mid 92 onwards. Import cars need to have a CAT fitted from 95 onwards. I had a chat with the local MOT chap. He passed my JSpec witout CAT's "The catalyst test is part of the MOT test for most class IV spark ignition petrol engined passenger cars with four or more wheels first used on and after 1 August 1992" * so, if you UK car is 1993 on, it automatically put though the catalyst test. * Taken from MOT testers hand book If that's correct, then I shouldn't be panicking about my MOT on thursday then, but how many MOT testing stations have a book with imported Supra's in? Mine failed at a local MOT place, but passed last year at another! Its a 1993 J-spec TT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_aero Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 surely you guys must know mot testers who would pass a car with 3 wheels on. I know plenty - CATS are least of my worries Though with a car like a supra i prefer to have it properly tested for safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Place a plate of milk under your car, if its gone in the morning then you have cats Well I have at least one and he is Black and my Cat lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzi Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 I was told that an import supra is treated the same as a UK. Size of the imports plates must be the same as any UK car and the emissions were tested as if it was a UK Supra. Seems to vary right across the country about imports etc... what is the actual rule for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heckler Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 alot of MOT testers dont understand the rules for import cars, when I was in norfolk I tried to argue to point, but the tester wasnt interested. All he saw was a 1993 car which required to pass the catalyst emmisions test, couldnt care if import or not. Now I use a tester down in hampshire who deals alot in import cars. he did some research and found the exception for import's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 Hopefully the new one I'm trying on thursday may be a bit more knowledgeable then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
movistar Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 You can get a copy of the ministy of transport mot testers guide at your local library...this is the same as a mot tester has to abide to. I used to be a tester years ago and i would say you will need at least one cat on...the pre 92 thing is correct. Not unless he sticks it up a pipe of another car...not that i have ever seen that;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickTT Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 These days the MOT tester just types the registration into the computer which is linked directly to the DVLA and the computer tells him what emmisions figures the car needs in order to pass. As far as I know most mkiv's, weather imported or not, need to pass the post '93 reglations; ie. CAT test. There are ways in which a "friendly" tester can make the car pass but if you get a roadside check it's what is on the DVLA computer that counts. There is no such thing as an "exemption" for imports, they just took longer to update the DVLA computers with the correct details. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted April 9, 2008 Share Posted April 9, 2008 my supe does not pass the emissions with both cats removed if you know what i mean as said above the dvla tells you mot tester it should have cats or one at least to pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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