michel lane Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 I would like to thank Ryan G for an outstanding job tuning my car and my clients cars especially the VVTI units. Both Ryan and Ian have devised a method to tune VVTI so that the flyby wire units are disabled and a Idle control valve is implimented . the cars drive like stock and the power they produce have been excellent with lower boost settings. Before tunning VVTI was always a grey area with AEM's unit ,I can say that has been overcome and doing these units for power over 500hp is easly achived on low boost settings. Ryan tuned my personal car this weekend , all i can say is 550rwhp at 1.1 bar was fast , but now 1.5bar the car scared the living daylights out of me, It runs lower boost then before but providing much more power..... I will let Ryan input into this. But thanks again for all your time . A 450hp MR2 turbo is very fast (my brothers) but up against my supra , it made it look like a ford fiesta when i pulled away at 70mph..... Thanks again Ryan and Ian for all your hard work . Now lets start on my aristo and gt4088r cars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 he certainly knows his mapping, he is going to final tweak mine at marham, finaly i may be able to scare him:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 550rwhp at 1.1bar, now at 1.5bar, bet thats fast:blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny g Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 This sounds very promising Michel. I'll be getting my VVTi done as soon as my single is fitted. Great news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Nice one Ryan He certainly is handy with a laptop Can wait to see your car run this year Michel and glad you got it sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 550rwhp at 1.1bar, now at 1.5bar, bet thats fast:blink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Good stuff, 550 at 1.1 bar is a lot! would be interested to talk to him about the fbw. looking forward to the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshBhp Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Well done guys, 1.5bar must be mental So what power you made at 1.5 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazB Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 New set up sound nice what your traction like now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted April 7, 2008 Share Posted April 7, 2008 Was a good weekend, although i was absolutely knackered. I think mapping 6 cars in 2 days was abit much Had a nice chilled day today ready for what looks like another crazy week. Michel's car was errr abit crazy. My laptop was filthy when mapping his car as my hands were sweating all over my white laptop. I thought after mapping John's mr2 to 450bhp that was fast but damn once it made traction its was crazy. Would like to see the top speed it will do at 8000rpm in 6th I think soon i will be purchasing a vvti supra as driving the one at the weekend was pure bliss. Pop your car on here michel as well as any other owners who i worked with at the weekend http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=129455 Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lebsteif Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Ryan - the wizard with the laptop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslb Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Michel is doing another supe to similar spec and I am sure Ryan will have his input on this one as well. It is going to be another excellent supe and from what I saw of it at the weekend will look stunning as well. I can't believe he is going to put so much work into another supe and then sell it. He treats every car as his own so someone will get a superb car. Welldone on yours Michel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 wow, whats the power like then at 1.5bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I take it the DBW safety feature is only disabled for mapping. And that it's re-instated afterwards to save the engine if things go wrong?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kslb Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I take it the DBW safety feature is only disabled for mapping. And that it's re-instated afterwards to save the engine if things go wrong?! Could you explain a bit more about this as am interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Could you explain a bit more about this as am interested. Drive By Wire is tied into the knock sensors. It detects knock, closes the throttle until the knock stops and generally stops you detting the arse off your engine. When mapping you're trying to find the edge of the envelope, power vs. destruction...and so you need to hear the knock and adjust for it, DBW gets in the way at this point and so disabling it for mapping is a good idea...but when no one is listening and tuning, I'd rather have it turned on incase I have a sh1t batch of fuel or oil contamination in the combustion chamber leading to knock and then det. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 The Aem doesn't support FBW Alex, but the Knock control they have more than makes up for it when setup right. Damn its faster than my ears sometimes when testing. Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jevansio Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Can't wait to get a run out in it Michel, wish this weather would dry up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Drive By Wire is tied into the knock sensors. It detects knock, closes the throttle until the knock stops and generally stops you detting the arse off your engine. I've seen quite a few tuned cars remove the oem knock sensing ability as it isnt as accurate as it once was pre-build, and can cause interference problems later on What type of knock sensors(piezoelectric?) does the Supra have, are they cyclinder dependent and are they the same on both pre-VVti and VVti cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 General Question for Ryan... Now that you have mapped umpteen Supra's, wouldnt you feel comfortable mapping a Supra with anyone of the market leading ecu's now, you must have quite a few on your cv now? Supraspecialist:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 wow, whats the power like then at 1.5bar? We couldn't get a power figure for above 1.2bar on the dyno due to traction issues but i would expect it to be around 750bhp. Based on the injector duty and lower boost results. Plus the turbo only really starts to get going at 1.4bar+ Due to Michel compression ratio i recon 1.8-2.00 bar of boost could be ran on 99ron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I've seen quite a few tuned cars remove the oem knock sensing ability as it isnt as accurate as it once was pre-build, and can cause interference problems later on What type of knock sensors(piezoelectric?) does the Supra have, are they cyclinder dependent and are they the same on both pre-VVti and VVti cars? The stock Supra ones listen to around 5-7hz so you can adjust the voltage levels vs knock table on the AEM to when knock occurs for a specific engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan.G Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 General Question for Ryan... Now that you have mapped umpteen Supra's, wouldnt you feel comfortable mapping a Supra with anyone of the market leading ecu's now, you must have quite a few on your cv now? Supraspecialist:cool: What do you class as Market leading. Pectal, Life Racing, Motec? Tbh As good as i rate Motec i probably wouldn't actually ever run one on a supra if i owned one due to the cost of getting stuff unlocked etc and that it has no knock control ability which i highly rate with the AEM. The AEM used to be IMO Crap due to the old firmware it ran but the new stuff is very reliable now and i have only had a few niggles with them. I have a very special Ecu which i will be testing soon which bang for buck cant be beaten. I will be trying on a special supra soon and will report on the results. Auto control, knock control, FBW, VVTI, Pitlane limiters, 10 IGN outputs, 10INJ outputs and lots more Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 I should have stated the leading Aftermarket Supra ECU's as I know most of the market leading ECU's like the ones mentioned and EFI e.t.c are generally out of most peoples(and my price range) But as an efi mapper you would be pretty comfortable with any of the HKS, Apexi, Aem, Autronic, Motec's e.t.c albeit they all have their own little gimmicks in some way or another I have just seen in the past mappers saying they can/would only map certain ecus when the truth is if they ventured into other softwares(which you certainly have) they would achieve the same result regardless of the ecu Kinda puts to sleep the saying choose your mapper then the ecu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted April 8, 2008 Share Posted April 8, 2008 Auto control, knock control, FBW, VVTI, Pitlane limiters, 10 IGN outputs, 10INJ outputs and lots more Ryan Tell me more! Would you rate the AEM as the standalone to have now for an auto TT? Cheers, Brian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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