bromy Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Who would want to be a train driver http://uk.news.yahoo.com/itn/20080328/tuk-trapped-woman-killed-by-train-dba1618.html Just could not imagine it helpless comes to mind, very sad accident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Sad? Yes. But how f***ing stupid do you have to be to cross a railway line when the barrier is down. Lot of sympathy for the driver though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 That's horrible. Someone has to be held responsible, it shouldn't be possible to trap a foot like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 very very sad:( poor woman and feel for the driver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Someone has to be held responsible A moment of stupidity in crossing when the barriers were down has cost her her life - and probably made a mess of the driver's life too, as well as the two witnesses who tried to save her. Does anyone else really need to be blamed? If she'd crossed at the right time they would've had an age to get her free or stop the oncoming trains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 My Girlfriend's Dad is a freight train driver, has been for 30 years. He's killed two people over the years, both suicides. It's not a very pleasant thing that's for sure. He had to attend inquests on both accounts too to determine what happened. He never says much about it, just that it's a horrible feeling of panic knowing you wont be able to stop in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 If she'd crossed at the right time they would've had an age to get her free or stop the oncoming trains. This is totally unknown. I did get my wording wrong when I said someone should be held responsible. But, it shouldn't be possible to trap a foot and someone has to be blamed for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 it's a horrible feeling of panic knowing you wont be able to stop in time. I never thought about it in that way before. Clearly its a terrible thing, but to have no control over being able to hit a last minute object or person on the rails must be awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 That's absolutely horrible! Feel for all those involved. It shouldn't be possible to trap a foot. Why? A railway isn't designed for pedestrians, but it is designed for carrying dirty great trains that take a long time to stop though. If you pedestrian-proof all the railways it'd cost a fortune and take forever to complete! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 This is totally unknown. It shouldn't be possible to trap a foot. No, it shouldn't be, but we don't live in an ideal world. Which is why there are safety measures in place, like crossing when the barriers are up. There's no way the train companies can constantly inspect every crossing in the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Why? A railway isn't designed for pedestrians, but it is designed for carrying dirty great trains that take a long time to stop though. If you pedestrian-proof all the railways it'd cost a fortune and take forever to complete! So you're saying that a crossing isn't designed for people then? No, it shouldn't There's no way the train companies can constantly inspect every crossing in the country. But they must get inspected, the fact that it may be a difficult task to do doesn't come into it at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 So you're saying that a crossing isn't designed for people then? No. I'd say it's designed for cars as it's primary use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Yes but pedestrians too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 The woman crossed when the barriers were down. Yet another contender for the Darwin Awards I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flukey-lukey Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 There's no way the train companies can constantly inspect every crossing in the country. Its the responsibility of Network Rail to ensure all track related things are inspected and maintained. Train companies only have to ensure their trains and wagons are fit for the railway. I've been called out to a few derailments in the past and its a very time consuming exercise inspecting every inch of a track! Anyway, most train drivers take the attitude of theres nothing much they can do apart from hit the emergency brake plunger and close their eyes. S**t happens unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think she got her foot stuck in the wooden slats at the far end of crossings. They are made so that you can't walk on them IIRC. She obviously thought she could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drnas78 Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Terrible tragedy, feel for the victim and also the train driver as i'm sure its not an easy thi for him to live with and may not have had any control over train stopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 I think she got her foot stuck in the wooden slats at the far end of crossings. They are made so that you can't walk on them IIRC. Sound like it. The idea is to stop cattle and other animals going wandering down the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Mac Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Sound like it. The idea is to stop cattle and other animals going wandering down the line. If the barriers were down then she'd probably walked around them, using the Non-Pedestrian part of the crossing to get through, whereupon her foot got stuck. I know it's someone's life and all that, but I feel absolutely no sympathy for the brainless, irresponsible person who got killed. Instead I feel massive sympathy for her family, the driver and the two men who tried to save her. It's not nice, or pretty, seeing someone killed in front of you and it's even worse when it's purely down to their own stupidity and could have easily been avoided. Evolution in progress I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 That is nasty for the people involved Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 29, 2008 Share Posted March 29, 2008 Who in their right mind would try to cross on these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 Who in their right mind would try to cross on these? http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/03_04/2903hythe1EN_468x312.jpg Never seen those before! In that case, she was definitely having a dumb moment trying to cross when the barrier was down. Tragic story which could easily have been avoided Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx1lew Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 hope the people involved are ok and can get on with there lives as normal. Its crazy to think that woman was getting on with her everday life proberly out shopping, maybe off to the bank or on her dinner brake at work, what ever who knows, she probly thought to her self "i can get a cross, the train is miles off", Then Bam, dead! a short life wasted for the cost of saving a few minuets, family is ruined and have to berry there child, really makes you think about what chances you take and have taken in life, weather it's spirited driving or running accross the road or for example when i was in school me and my frineds would go down the beach pier and play wave dodging when the tied came in or chicken with buses, just to think i done stupid things and im still here yet the next time you go to cross a road you could get hit by a bus... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bens747 Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 "He added that it had been a "harrowing" experience for the train driver and emergency services called to the scene of the incident". What about the two guys who tried to save her .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmx1lew Posted March 30, 2008 Share Posted March 30, 2008 what i dont understand is, she was trapped at the rail so they should of held her sholders and lied her as flat as possible, then let the train slice her foot or leg off at the lowever shin, it would of been a horrible thing to do or expirence but hey she would be alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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