Pete Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 ..just try being one of poor souls these 'scientists' got their hands on. Top 10 most evil human experiments. It's sickening how supposedly educated people can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Yeah okay... speechless after reading that really.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 That unit 731 one is by far the worst IMO, they are all appauling though, apart from the LSD one, it's hardly horrific just a bit wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 28, 2008 Author Share Posted March 28, 2008 Yeah okay... speechless after reading that really.... Isn't it? I've been feeling pretty stressed out and general not so well in the last week - reading that has really put some perspective back. I feel it's important to be aware of such atrocities that have been endured to realise just how lucky we are to live as we do. We all harp on about tax, rising petrol, immigration rules, sponging benefits etc - but when you see stuff like this you can't help but feel thankful for the life you have. Next time I see one of those moaning threads I'll point them here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 oh my, i wish i hadn't read that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Thats some nasty stuff:blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Isn't it? I've been feeling pretty stressed out and general not so well in the last week - reading that has really put some perspective back. I feel it's important to be aware of such atrocities that have been endured to realise just how lucky we are to live as we do. We all harp on about tax, rising petrol, immigration rules, sponging benefits etc - but when you see stuff like this you can't help but feel thankful for the life you have. Next time I see one of those moaning threads I'll point them here. It still always pushes me back to the Carl Sagan quote which is just SO true in this case, when he talked about life out in the universe. "A sad spectacle. If they be inhabited, what a scope for misery and folly. If they be not inhabited, what a waste of space." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Sorry to say I've seen a documentary showing the Nazi experiments. The father of the guy I work with saw some of the Nazi butchery 1st hand as a polish POW Words fail me. The total disregard of human life is just disgusting. The human race at its lowest ebb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 And in the same note.... I would like to point people to capital punishment thread..... (interesting comparison....) http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=145314 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 And in the same note.... I would like to point people to capital punishment thread..... (interesting comparison....) http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=145314 Think you've missed the point there, the capital punishment would be for the sort of sick people that were doing the so called 'experiments' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Some experts say that without the Nazi experimentation during the war we would be miles behind in medical research, what they did was very very wrong but it also accellerated the understanding of medical science at a much higher rate. In the same way the US stole information on rocket power etc, medical experimention info was also taken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Think you've missed the point there, the capital punishment would be for the sort of sick people that were doing the so called 'experiments' Not really, some people claimed that medical testing should be done on convicts (Doesn't matter who and I can't remember), but it highlights the very fine line between what is acceptable and what isn't. PS : Don't go looking for those who suggested it as it is completely irrelevant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Regarding the Stanford prison experiment, the creator of that one wrote a book called The Lucifer Effect, trying to identify what turns otherwise good people into culprits of the most horrible attrocities. It's definately not an easy read (very long and tiny print!) but seems really interesting so far. It started out as an honest enough experiment which went very badly wrong (well, maybe it went very badly right I suppose given their objectives). It's suprising how easy the right environment, peers and dehumanisation of the victims can turn people to be monsters. We all like to think of the perpetrators as a 'few bad apples' in the barrel of mankind, but looking at recent cases of genocide and mass rape / murder tells a different story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Not really, some people claimed that medical testing should be done on convicts (Doesn't matter who and I can't remember), but it highlights the very fine line between what is acceptable and what isn't. PS : Don't go looking for those who suggested it as it is completely irrelevant. ahh right, i understand and agree with you on that then, kinda jumped then gun a little there, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 ahh right, i understand and agree with you on that then, kinda jumped then gun a little there, sorry. No need to apologise, nothing like a good decent debate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 And in the same note.... I would like to point people to capital punishment thread..... (interesting comparison....) http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=145314 It is interesting how capital punishment is agreed with by some people, yet torturing of people for science is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Double post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 It is interesting how capital punishment is agreed with by some people, yet torturing of people for science is not. Killing murdering kiddie fiddlers = Torturing innocent people for not even a suspicion of a crime = Not too sure about the comparision you were making there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Killing murdering kiddie fiddlers = Torturing innocent people for not even a suspicion of a crime = Not too sure about the comparision you were making there I can't see the link so I'm probably propagandising. I was basing it on what people have said in the thread so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 There are some people on this board who would be quite happy to have murderers/paedos etc experimented upon in order to further our advances in science Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 There are some people on this board who would be quite happy to have murderers/paedos etc experimented upon in order to further our advances in science murders not so much... paedos, well, yes to honest...wouldn't bother me....kids are kids leave them alone!!! By paedos, I am referring to childporn creation and serious abuse of kids, not the 15yr old who gets caught with his 14yr old gf (morally wrong, but not in the same league) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 Not really, some people claimed that medical testing should be done on convicts (Doesn't matter who and I can't remember), but it highlights the very fine line between what is acceptable and what isn't. PS : Don't go looking for those who suggested it as it is completely irrelevant. It was me (well at least one of them), and sadly even after reading this, I stand by it. Yes, there is a fine line, but the people (tested upon) in this thread were law abiding. Capital punishment thread people, I was talking about the absolutely sick people out there that do not deserve to live as part of a civilized community. Hope that makes sense... BTW. In Amsterdam, I saw a picture of Aushwitz at Ann Franks house, that literally took my breath away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 It was me, and sadly even after reading this, I stand by it. Yes, there is a fine line, but the people (tested upon) in this thread were law abiding. Capital punishment thread people, I was talking about the absolutely sick people out there that do not deserve to live as part of a civilized community. Hope that makes sense... BTW. In Amsterdam, I saw a picture of Aushwitz at Ann Franks house, that literally took my breath away. See my above post.... I will stand by that comment as well, so in a way I agree with, even if it may be morally wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Doom Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 I've read quite a bit on the Nazis before but no so much on Unit 731.... this is from wikipedia; Other Unit 731 experiments Prisoners were subjected to other experiments such as: being hung upside down to see how long it would take for them to choke to death. having air injected into their arteries to determine the time until the onset of embolism. having horse urine injected into their kidneys. being deprived of food and water to determine the length of time until death. being placed into high-pressure chambers until death. being exposed to extreme temperatures and developed frostbite to determine how long humans could survive with such an affliction, and to determine the effects of rotting and gangrene on human flesh. having experiments performed upon prisoners to determine the relationship between temperature, burns, and human survival. being placed into centrifuges and spun until dead. having animal blood injected and the effects studied. being exposed to lethal doses of x-ray radiation. having various chemical weapons tested on prisoners inside gas chambers. being injected with sea water to determine if it could be a substitute for saline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 28, 2008 Share Posted March 28, 2008 See my above post.... I will stand by that comment as well, so in a way I agree with, even if it may be morally wrong. was just statng that I stuck by what I said earlier, even seeing that. the concept of "out of sight, out of mind" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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