TT-DEK Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I posted earlier in the week about this said manhole cover, and damage it caused to my front bumper? Let me know your thoughts as whether you think its legal. I have just received a letter from Shells Insurance asking to prove whether they are liable?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Not sure. Speed bumps are legal. Although manhole covers have to be flush with the surface I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra-lover Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 sorry dude these are legal, my company use these type on certain jobs:( that is rather high though tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_blackman Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 Ouch, I did the same with my old bmw coupe on drain cover through some road works as they taken the tarmac from around it away.... its annoying! I never got round to complaining though Good luck with the claim! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-DEK Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 sorry dude these are legal, my company use these type on certain jobs:( that is rather high though tbh Thanks.. However there is no sign to warn motorists of raised covers? Surely they know modern vehicles today are lower & straight from the showroom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 If you intend sending these photo's to shell it might be a good idea to use a tape measure at the end of the horizontal piece in the second photo to show the height of the manhole cover above the normal level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 be interesting to see if there is a regulation as to when they have to use the "Ramp" signs you see when there is resurfacing work going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJButler Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 I posted earlier in the week about this said manhole cover, and damage it caused to my front bumper? Let me know your thoughts as whether you think its legal. I have just received a letter from Shells Insurance asking to prove whether they are liable?? These are obviously on a garage forecourt and are used for remediation wells etc, they are a bit high but that does make them easy to see, i don't know how you stand in law but they won't be covered by any road rules and regs imo. I wrecked mine on a speed hump in the road and never got anywhere with the council who put the bl**dy thing there so good luck with shell, hope you do better than i did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TT-DEK Posted March 22, 2008 Author Share Posted March 22, 2008 These are obviously on a garage forecourt and are used for remediation wells etc, they are a bit high but that does make them easy to see, i don't know how you stand in law but they won't be covered by any road rules and regs imo. I wrecked mine on a speed hump in the road and never got anywhere with the council who put the bl**dy thing there so good luck with shell, hope you do better than i did. Cheers buddy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mplavery Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 that is high! my bumper would be fu***d if i drove over that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Send them the photos (with the measure as merckx said) and see how you go. You never know, they might agree they're too high and fix them/send you some compensation. Miracles do accasionally happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest coldflame Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 sorry buddy but yeah its legal if it was surrounded by tarmac it a differant story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 i believe they can only be 100mm high roughly 4 inches on the [road ramps].There must be a standard hight otherwise they could make them as high as they liked.It may be worth contacting the local councils road section to find out the standard height.If the garage is higher it may help your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelfill Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Derek, speak to Matt H - he knows the regs regarding speed bumps. However, there is no standard height (IIRC) just a ramp profile (slope). Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Was that particular lane designated for 4x4's only. They don't look well thought out to me;) Good luck mate;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marbleapple Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 TT they are asking you to prove that they are negligent, not that the man holes are legal or not. They can still be legal manholes but the actions of the company can be negligent. To be negligent there must be; 1. a duty of care 2. a breach of said duty 3. Damage 4. causation between the breach of duty and the damage. For example, you could argue that there is a duty of care that people entering the site would not have their property damaged and that any dangers should be signed. The breach is that the man holes are raised to a point that damage is likely to ensue and that there were no warning signs and as a result of the raised man holes on entering the property the bottom of your car scrapped the manholes doing £x damage. TBH mate, making statements of claim is best left to the professionals... Try get a free hour consultation with a solicitor and see what they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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