Mr. Fish Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Hi guys/gals... As alot of you are clued up on turbo's i thought you may be able to help Basically, the car is smoking from the exhaust quite a bit as though its burning oil...basically, you can accelerate normally on-boost, but as soon as you lift off and change gear, and power on again, there is a nasty puff of bluey/white smoke sort of 'spat' out... I think it could be the turbo oil seals, but im not totally sure lol? Anyone have any ideas? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edge Posted March 21, 2008 Share Posted March 21, 2008 Sounds very likely tbh. What gt turbo is it? starlet ? Could be worth a look on the owners club sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 21, 2008 Author Share Posted March 21, 2008 Sounds very likely tbh. What gt turbo is it? starlet ? Could be worth a look on the owners club sites. Yes mate, sorry should of made that clear.. Im on the two main owners club sites, but they mostly chat rubbish all the time lol! The turbo is being replaced with a TD04 in about 3 weeks, but just wanted to check that it wasnt anything engine side...as it could turn out alot worse... Will it damage anything else..driving with dud turbo seals? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_stevo Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 yeah it can damage ur engine, my mate ran his glanza for about 6 weeks whilst the oil seals had gone in the turbo and screwed the bottom end of the engine up! id be carefull mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted March 22, 2008 Share Posted March 22, 2008 valve stem oil seals / turbo oil seals happened to my gt few years back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Cheers for the replys guys...the main thing i want to be made certain is...will it cause any damage to the engine if its turbo seals?! Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Do the stem seals as well. Since you're changing turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 Do the stem seals as well. Since you're changing turbos. okay cheers for that advice mate... But the new kit isnt coming for about 2 weeks, will it bugger it if its driven in the meantime? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 As ben stevo has first hand knowledge mate I'd say it wasn't worth the risk bud. His mates lasted 6 weeks yours may last that, or not. Then it's rebuild time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul R Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Id stay valve stem seals too. The reason you get smoke is that when you lift your foot off the accelerator there is a vacuum in the cylinders as the piston drops to the bottom. This sucks oil through the valve stem seal and then when you put your foot back on the accelerator, fuel is injected, combusts and burns the oil, then chucks it out of the exhaust! Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 hmm dont sound to good then.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 Cheer up bud. Stem seals can be a bit pricey to change, well, on Supes they are, but you're getting a fresh turbo. By the end of that you'll have a great car. You haven't damaged anything yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADL Mark Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 It's more likely to be the turbo oil seal leaking under vacuum when you lift off. Valve stem oil seals will be more likely to smoke on start up as oil will have seeped passed them whilst the car has been sitting cold and this will burn off when started. Turbo oil seals will often cause the symptoms you describe. Weeping turbo oil seals won't ruin the bottom end of your engine, only if it's burning enough oil to run the engine dry will it cause problems. Just make sure you check the oil level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 just keep it topped up wit oil dude what turbo kit u plannin on runnin >? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 23, 2008 Author Share Posted March 23, 2008 well its actually "fishmans" of here's car, he was going to buy an n/a supra but got that instead, in the long run he should of got the supe I think he went with a WEPR kit in the end...not exactly my choice but there stuff has improved loads recently... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_Shane_ Posted March 23, 2008 Share Posted March 23, 2008 had a full wepr kit, well manifold and downpipe on my setup i used Ran a GT28rs turbo kit on my gt, some power of the thing and it was fairly big compared to the little ct9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord R Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Just had exactly the same problem with my glanza. Turned out to be that the breather wasnt allowing it to breath properly , although saying that mines quite highly tuned. Heard quite a few people have had prob with turbo seals on the starlets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Just had exactly the same problem with my glanza. Turned out to be that the breather wasnt allowing it to breath properly , although saying that mines quite highly tuned. Heard quite a few people have had prob with turbo seals on the starlets. Cool, whats your spec then?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord R Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Been built for circuit use, seam welded shell , cage etc. Was running a fully forged motor on a K3 turbo so once mapped was looking at about 275-300 bhp. Although i blew the sodding thing up last week. So new engine is being built to run more boost aiming at a solid 325bhp. And weight to 900kg max. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Fish Posted March 24, 2008 Author Share Posted March 24, 2008 Been built for circuit use, seam welded shell , cage etc. Was running a fully forged motor on a K3 turbo so once mapped was looking at about 275-300 bhp. Although i blew the sodding thing up last week. So new engine is being built to run more boost aiming at a solid 325bhp. And weight to 900kg max. sounds mint, you still going to be running the same turbo then...and are you still 4e, or are you 5e? Are you on any of the owners club's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gord R Posted March 24, 2008 Share Posted March 24, 2008 Aye both Uk Starlet Club and Toyota GT Turbo. Will be sticking going with a 4E , as a 5E would take me outside class regs. Although saying that it turns out the engine i blew up was a 5E! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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