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i went to court a few months back for crossing the line on an amber!

 

the camera showed clearly that my front wheels went over on amber, a friend of ours is a solicitor and i got some advice from him, in the book of law you are NOT allowed to cross the line on an amber, it carries the same penlty as going over on a red!

 

i got 3 points on a TS10 i think the code is and a 60 quid fine, insurance is not affected by it.

 

if you want to contest go for it but i think you will lose,

 

hope this helps

 

richie

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I started to go around the car in front just because it was driving very slowely, so basicly just changed lanes. was doing say.. 15mph, in order to stop when it change amber i would have skidded over the line doing so.

 

I drive in central london daily with a delivery van and have never had a problem like this.

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i went to court a few months back for crossing the line on an amber!

 

the camera showed clearly that my front wheels went over on amber, a friend of ours is a solicitor and i got some advice from him, in the book of law you are NOT allowed to cross the line on an amber, it carries the same penlty as going over on a red!

 

I'm not disputing you getting done, but that doesn't sound right.

 

The whole point of the constant Amber light is to warn drivers that the light is about to turn red.

 

Drivers who are too close to the crossing to stop safely can proceed through, but those further back who can stop in time must do so and not race the lights.

 

IIRC you can be prosecuted for going through on Amber if it can be shown that you had reasonable time to stop and didn't, but it is not a blanket Amber = prosecution rule, otherwise there's be no point having an Amber in the first place.

 

Any BiB around to clarify this?

 

PS - Bens747 - I don't know the ins and outs regarding them seeing you 'run' a red, but in terms of speeding offences two officers can legally arrest you for 'exceeding the speed limit' using nothing other than their judgement that you were over the limit. Because they cannot gauge your exact speed you would have to be going far enough over the limit to leave them in no reasonable doubt - and no I don't like that either as I don't think they are given any specific speed-distance training?

 

I would think that Epic was pulled allegedly on the same principle - ie both cops thought he went over on red.

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Could not find weather conditions for the 21st but the 22nd was 2c...

I was unable to safely stop with the weather conditions and even if it had been warmer i would have still carryed on as i was at the point of no return already giving my current speed and position

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From the Highway Code (2007):

 

"AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident"

 

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/Signsandmarkings/index.htm

 

Cheers Ivan:thumbs: knew it was something like that, but didn't have the time to ferret through the HC.

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