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patrik

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Hello,

 

The uk fuel pump is said to have a higher flow than the jspec

 

does anyone know the spec for the jspec/ukspec

 

and ive read somewhere (dont know where) that the uk spec

is the same as another pump that dont cost so much as the toyota one.

 

and can you put 2 pumps in and connect them?

 

additional question how big injectors can a ukspec drive?

 

 

(im new to the fueling soo be nice :-) )

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Jeff Lucus/RC engineering done a few fuel pump tests a few years ago. The results were that The USDM (same as euro/uk) Supra pump at 13.5 volts flows sufficient fuel at line pressures up to 68 psi (25 psi boost) to supply six injectors with any size up to 625 cc/min

 

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thanks for the link!

 

now i know where i read the test :D (some years back)

 

for any fuel pump upgraders out there you should definetly read this before spending money on a walboro 255 pump (it flows about the same as the UK pump)

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However the walboro is much cheaper.

 

 

Rated flow

lph @ 43psi

@13.5V

Toyota Supra Turbo Denso

195130-1020

Toyota

23221-46110 277 73 260 lph @ 43 psi; 220 lph @ 58 psi; @ 12 V 1.

290 lph @ 43 psi; 260 lph @ 58 psi; @ 14 V 1.

Conicelli sells this pump for $180 ($244.71 list price).

Black tag on top.

Rated flow

lph @ 43psi

@13.5V

Walbro Walbro

GSS 341 262 69 This flow data from T&HTP.3 Flow data from

Auto Performance Engineering says only 255 lph.

The Walbro 341 can be purchased from Extreme PSI

for about $100. An adapter is required for the pickup tube

and electrical connection.

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  • 3 years later...
You cant change the injectors without having a way to control them, the stock fueling will be setup for stock sized injectors.

 

Yes the UK/US pump is bigger than a JSpec, most people buy a Walbro pump.

 

For good reason too....I tried changing my j-spec for a new UK pump and the issues I had were ridiculous. In the end I ended up taking it out and putting the jspec pump back in. It wouldn't work with the fuel pump ECU and only run when this was bypassed and run 12v which I didnt fancy too much. I thought about sticking a separate relay in for the UK pump and trying that but sold the car shortly after

 

Have a search through my threads...im sure there is tons of info in the subject. I think I spoke to you Phil on this one too iirc

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U.K. spec pump 299lph @ 43.5 psi and is silent.

 

I have one fitted to my N/A complete with carrier and J spec TT fuel pump ECU.

 

It is working perfectly.

 

U.K fuel pump is compatible with a J spec T.T. fuel pump ECU but not N/A.

 

Side by side pics and info in supracharger project thread.

Edited by David P (see edit history)
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For good reason too....I tried changing my j-spec for a new UK pump and the issues I had were ridiculous. In the end I ended up taking it out and putting the jspec pump back in. It wouldn't work with the fuel pump ECU and only run when this was bypassed and run 12v which I didnt fancy too much. I thought about sticking a separate relay in for the UK pump and trying that but sold the car shortly after

 

Have a search through my threads...im sure there is tons of info in the subject. I think I spoke to you Phil on this one too iirc

 

 

what was the issue exacly with the pump ?

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I found at toyodiy.com that

 

-euro spec tt pump ecu is 89570-14230

-jap spec tt pump ecu is 89570-14240

-na pump ecu is 89570-14240

 

so the na has the same pump ecu that jap spec tt... so it wont find my config, I'll need to find a euro pump ecu... :(:(:(

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U.K. spec pump 299lph @ 43.5 psi and is silent.

 

I have one fitted to my N/A complete with carrier and J spec TT fuel pump ECU.

 

It is working perfectly.

 

U.K fuel pump is compatible with a J spec T.T. fuel pump ECU but not N/A.

 

Side by side pics and info in supracharger project thread.

 

:think:

Edited by David P (see edit history)
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I found at toyodiy.com that

 

-euro spec tt pump ecu is 89570-14230

-jap spec tt pump ecu is 89570-14240

-na pump ecu is 89570-14240

 

so the na has the same pump ecu that jap spec tt... so it wont find my config, I'll need to find a euro pump ecu... :(:(:(

 

That's not the case in the 'Real World'.

 

The J spec T.T. fuel pump ECU was twice the size of the N/A version I swapped it for.

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That's not the case in the 'Real World'.

 

The J spec T.T. fuel pump ECU was twice the size of the N/A version I swapped it for.

 

 

I'll check it in the morning, and give you the part number of mine, if you could check you got the same on yours ;)

 

I want to be sure it would work before i change it...

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I had a UK spec pump once, brand new, that did the same thing. It turned enough to slightly pressurise the fuel system and start the car, but delivered very little fuel so as soon as you revved it, it stalled. It'd also chug and die after a few seconds of idling. It was a bad brand new pump, Toyota took it back and replaced it.

 

Check how much fuel is flowing by removing the return hose and venting it into a suitable container, then try starting the car. I'll bet nothing really comes out.

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