Matt H Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 lol i bet you and the other Matt are the same person That is highly offensive, i am not an amoeba. Rampage and pillage time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 That is highly offensive, i am not an amoeba. Rampage and pillage time ooooohhhh . http://articles.ukcraftwebsites.co.uk/handmade-handbags.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 ooooohhhh . [/url] I wouldnt be bothered but hes jsut flown in with some utter nonsense P.s, if you want to sell items off from your personnel collection, see here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=39 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darren-K Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 I wouldnt be bothered but hes jsut flown in with some utter nonsense P.s, if you want to sell items off from your personnel collection, see here: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/forumdisplay.php?f=39 lol,. pretty funny,if i owned a pink fury handbag,i got a few other handbags but not a pink one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt k Posted March 25, 2008 Share Posted March 25, 2008 We are talking about now / Today super numb nuts!!! Please qoute anything from this thread that has me saying that i think monarchy was pointless 500 years ago!! how can you agree with something i havent said!? Oh and take that shoe out of your mouth while you are at it! The Monarchy still does more than you today! All you do is come on here and talk; Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 The Monarchy still does more than you today! All you do is come on here and talk; http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j319/guido_569/images.jpg thats a nice picture *********** EDIT by Alex - Comments earned an infraction from the mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 thats a nice picture ********* sorry but that is just in poor taste:rolleyes:Id edit that before Matt K sees it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I sense a locked thread in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 sorry but that is just in poor taste:rolleyes:Id edit that before Matt K sees it! Too late if he's got instant notification. I still wonder why this thread was started. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermonkey Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 I sense a locked thread in the near future. certainly looks that way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Have we had a religious themed thread that has ever not been locked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Before this thread get's locked, I've actually got a serious question to ask.... What is the actual wording of whatever rule Muslim's adhere to in not allowing the images of Mohammed? I mean specifically... I'd seriously be interested in knowing, as personally, I think it's possible that a lot of things are taken massively out of context, but without knowing all the facts, I'd like to reserve any judgement... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Before this thread get's locked, I've actually got a serious question to ask.... What is the actual wording of whatever rule Muslim's adhere to in not allowing the images of Mohammed? I mean specifically... I'd seriously be interested in knowing, as personally, I think it's possible that a lot of things are taken massively out of context, but without knowing all the facts, I'd like to reserve any judgement... It's just an easy get out to avoid questions relating to what god looks like. The bible uses the completely indefinite point that man is in his image, so obviously he's human looking but no details. Muslim religion states it's really bad to see his image, so people shy away from even asking the question for fear of hell or whatever. //edit: No, I don't know the details either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 sorry but that is just in poor taste:rolleyes:Id edit that before Matt K sees it! Agreed, especially under the circumstances, it's hard enough for Matt as it is right now without someone posting things like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 An Extremist would be someone with extreme views Definitely. I mean, even stamp collectors. Funny creatures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 It's just an easy get out to avoid questions relating to what god looks like. The bible uses the completely indefinite point that man is in his image, so obviously he's human looking but no details. Muslim religion states it's really bad to see his image, so people shy away from even asking the question for fear of hell or whatever. //edit: No, I don't know the details either. Yeah but that's God, and Mohammed was a Prophet wasn't he? Not God (That's Allah isn't it?) See what I mean? It's quite easy to get confused! Hence why personally I'd want to take it back to first principles before making any decision..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 thats a nice picture, ************ Infracted - play nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Yeah but that's God, and Mohammed was a Prophet wasn't he? Not God (That's Allah isn't it?) See what I mean? It's quite easy to get confused! Hence why personally I'd want to take it back to first principles before making any decision..... Gona stuggle me thinks, most of the bods in the know have been dead for over 1500 years!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 But it must be written down in Qur'an or somewhere... otherwise no-one would be bothered about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 But it must be written down in Qur'an or somewhere... otherwise no-one would be bothered about it. I've just found this; Writings from Muhammad himself? Hadith? "Not all Islamic traditions ban images of Mohammed, and some are pretty lax about pictures of lesser figures. For Muslims, the rule against depicting God and the prophets comes from the Hadith, a collection of sayings and actions attributed to Mohammed. (A few passages in the Quran have been taken to offer oblique support to this notion.) The doctrine has been interpreted in various ways over the centuries. Persian art of the 15th and 16th centuries shows the figure of Mohammed with his face, hands, and feet covered. Some earlier Persian works show full views. Arab Muslims tend to be the strictest about religious imagery. Shiites are more flexible than Sunnis; for example, they display images of Husayn,* the grandson of Mohammed. Devotional portraits of leading teachers are generally OK, as long as they don't fall under the Hadith ban on depicting the major prophets. Pictures of people in religious scenes—like pilgrims on the Hajj—are also allowed. These are more likely to be displayed in the home than at a mosque, and some conservative Muslims will refuse to pray in their presence" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Doesn't it make you wonder why sane, intelligent germans would follow hitler, support him? There must have been something about him that made him worth following. Germans aren't inherently evil or stupid or fantasists, he was dearly loved, and like darren says, only after the war did his deciet of the peoples trust him him come to light on a massive scale. Germany had worst economy crisis at the time Hitler was getting to power. He and his party (BNP like morons) offered solution to masses, simple folk who wanted food and olimpics - he started mass weapon production to prepare to war. War was and still is good way to boost country's economy. To justify it he had to find someone to blame for recent German situation so here came Jews handy. Inteligent Germans was at that time as far away from country as they could or in conzentration camps - beaten and starved to death along with anyone, who dare to oppose Hitler and his SA and later SS squadrons. Do not try to excuse or explain or call this madman "great man", by doing this you are insulting all those who died during WW2 - not only soldiers, but also milions of civilians. He just used perfect situation to convince to all his bullcrap starving and hit by worst economy crisis german population. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Oh what a tool you are. Germany had worst economy crisis at the time Hitler was getting to power. He and his party (BNP like morons) offered solution to masses, simple folk who wanted food and olimpics - he started mass weapon production to prepare to war. War was and still is good way to boost country's economy. To justify it he had to find someone to blame for recent German situation so here came Jews handy. Inteligent Germans was at that time as far away from country as they could or in conzentration camps - beaten and starved to death along with anyone, who dare to oppose Hitler and his SA and later SS squadrons. Do not try to excuse or explain or call this madman "great man", by doing this you are insulting all those who died during WW2 - not only soldiers, but also milions of civilians. He just used perfect situation to convince to all his bullcrap starving and hit by worst economy crisis german population. I respect your opinion. And I'm sorry if I have caused offence if you have lost anyone close to you in that war. However I think its a lot more than just economics. I dont think that most of the germans left in germany in 1933 were average or lower than average intelligence. Also I think its dangerous to assume that BNP voters are all moronic. But I understand your thinking that people who don't agree with the accepted / general view of things must be in someway retarded/ dumb. Also, greatness in a man should not imply goodness, I think the two are seperate! But I do understand where you are coming from! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl_S Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Have we had a religious themed thread that has ever not been locked? My thread last year (I think) bout "Do you believe in God" was not locked to my knowledge. There was some interesting talk on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 Also, greatness in a man should not imply goodness I think it does, there is nothing "great" about geneocide, or dictatorship, and definatly nothing great in how it got things done. It wasnt a "great" war, it was "sh!t" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 26, 2008 Share Posted March 26, 2008 My thread last year (I think) bout "Do you believe in God" was not locked to my knowledge. There was some interesting talk on that. what is / was your view on that then (briefly - do you believe) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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