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1JZ head on a 2JZ block?


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How changing the head alters displacement I don't know, displacement is a direct function of bore X stroke.. My head man didn't see anything particular to make him think the 1JZ-GTE head would flow better than a 2JZ-GTE one, and that's good enough for me :) I didn't go to the expense of having them flow tested though.

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Apparently it has bigger less restrictive exhaust ports, but ive never heard of that before.

 

 

Goes ok from what ive seen of it tho.

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How changing the head alters displacement I don't know, displacement is a direct function of bore X stroke.. My head man didn't see anything particular to make him think the 1JZ-GTE head would flow better than a 2JZ-GTE one, and that's good enough for me :) I didn't go to the expense of having them flow tested though.

 

Depends on the amount of cc's per cylinder chamber on the head i thought plus piston size and stroke. You get the chamber volume kits with the syringe for measuring or is that for compression ratio.:search:

Maybe the 1jz-Gte head has bigger cylinder chambers.

 

Found it although not for Toyota you get what i'm waffling on about.:)

 

http://www.msgulfcoastvwclub.org/TechPages/Tech10.html

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How changing the head alters displacement I don't know, displacement is a direct function of bore X stroke.. My head man didn't see anything particular to make him think the 1JZ-GTE head would flow better than a 2JZ-GTE one, and that's good enough for me :) I didn't go to the expense of having them flow tested though.

 

I think the point is that they changed the block of the 2.5 litre 1JZ engine to a 3 liter 2jz block, IYSWIM.

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Depends on the amount of cc's per cylinder chamber on the head i thought plus piston size and stroke. You get the chamber volume kits with the syringe for measuring or is that for compression ratio.:search:

Maybe the 1jz-Gte head has bigger cylinder chambers.

 

Found it although not for Toyota you get what i'm waffling on about.:)

 

http://www.msgulfcoastvwclub.org/TechPages/Tech10.html

 

The combustion chamber volume is not taken into account when you work out the engine's displacement, but it is when you work out the compression ratio.

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good timing for you guys as I'm just about to get my 1JZ engine built, here's a side pic of the ports of my head,

 

Intake

 

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Exhaust

 

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Exhaust close

 

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cams

 

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the ports are tiny and especially small compared to an RB26 engine which is being built next to this, the RB26 ports were much much bigger, intake and exhaust.

 

as soon as the head was apart I told my mechanic about this rumour but it is hard to believe the 2JZ has a smaller ports than this.

 

If anyone wants to I can take mesurements etc incase people want conclusive proof? but my head will be ported as there's a lot of potential there :)

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If you search around there's a thread somewhere where one of the guys in the states did actually flow test the heads - the 2JZ flows significantly more as you would expect. There's also something about the GE head vs the GTE. Basically the combustion chamber volume in the GE head is smaller, which is the main reason why the compression ratio is higher for the GE than the GTE. It doesn't flow any better either.

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How changing the head alters displacement I don't know, displacement is a direct function of bore X stroke..

That's always been my understanding of it and 500cc seemed an awful lot.

 

The article is from a magazine a friend brought in - he works at the place which prints it and thought as I liked Supra he'd give me a copy. Nice thought.

 

It's some chap called Miguel Marini with a BN Sports (AKA Darlek) body kit on it.

The engine is a specially built hybrid consisting of the bottom end of from a 2JZ-GTE mated to the cylinder head of its older cousin, the 1JZ-GTE. The combination yields an extra 500cc of displacement and takes advantage of the less restrictive exhaust ports on the 1JZ heads to deliver more power

Actually now I've re-read it they're running HKS pistons - maybe the stroker kit? It's a bit of a chavvy mag so no doubt they've got no idea what they're talking about. It's just seemed a bizarre thing to do!

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The 1.5JZ setup refers to a 1JZ block with a 2JZ head bolted on as the later head flows better. Read about it recently though I can't remember where

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Hi guys just seen this tread I actually now own the above mentioned BN sports supra it runs the 1.5JZ setup.

Ah cool. It looks like a bit of a monster. Have you seen Modified Motors April issue over there yet? Apparently it's an Irish magazine.

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The 1.5JZ setup refers to a 1JZ block with a 2JZ head bolted on as the later head flows better. Read about it recently though I can't remember where

 

I'm pretty sure its the other way round, why would people use the bottom end of the 1JZ over the 2JZ?

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