Chris Wilson Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I have been asked to re home Ben, an 18 month old Anatolian Karabash dog. Whilst we can look after him short term I am not convinced he will get on with our bunch, so am putting feelers out in case anyone can offer him a permanent country home. He is not suitable to live with other male dogs, nor would I want him to be with young children. Ideally his new owners will have experience of fairly primitive livestock guarding breeds, have plenty of time to address his considerable exercise needs, and have a secure area where he can be trained to respond to basic obedience. Through no fault of his own Ben has been left unsold from a litter of his siblings, and is now 18 months old, but has had little human contact and no basic training. We have successfully turned around 2 Anatolians like Ben, but make no mistake, it requires patience and time, and probably some experience with difficult breeds. He is definitely not suitable as a first dog, or for someone without the commitment to tackle an adolescent headstrong male Karabash, who probably has some "funny habits" He is a full pedigree from a reputable breeder, but he has suffered a very nasty bite to a front paw, resulting in a pad being torn off. He was operated on, at some expense, and the pad was successfully re attached, and is healing slowly, but well. He limps, but in time, with care taken that he doesn't fiddle with it, he should make a full recovery. At worst he may have a sensitivity in one front paw, and always limp a bit. He is a bit shy of people, as he hasn't really met many, but is robust and otherwise 100% healthy. He will need house training, but ideally he's a dog that will live happily outside all year, as they are amongst the hardiest of breeds. They have the strongest guarding instincts of all the livestock protection breeds, and this must be borne in mind at all times, it's something that's inbred, and cannot be modified. This needs considerable forethought as to kennelling, exercising and your lifestyle with regard to visitors et cetera. There is a lot of stuff on this breed, mainly in Turkish, on You Tube, search Anatolian Karabash, or Kangal Dog. Also see: http://www.pedigreesearch.co.uk/breed_guides/breed_description.asp?breed=anatolianshepherddog They are far from everyone's cup of tea, definitely not a first time dog, and being 18 months old, without socialisation or obedience training I emphasise that he will be a challenge. We will keep him if no one comes forward with a suitable permanent home, but he'd be better as an only dog, or with a suitably robust bitch, where someone could surely turn him into a lovely, handsome and quite well mannered dog. I took the pic below this afternoon, at his current temporary home. Please do not post this elsewhere, there are those that like to get their hands on these dogs for dog fighting, and they can be remarkably devious about how they acquire one. Thanks. http://www.gatesgarth.com/ben.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 How are they with children chris? Can't have him myself as the current back yard resident probaly wouldn't put up with competition. Lovely dog though Hope he finds a good home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraChick Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Hes handsome Chris.....but we have a male shepard, I would have considered him otherwise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieren1234 Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 Lovely looking dog, a shame he wasnt sold to a good home when he was a pup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 11, 2008 Author Share Posted March 11, 2008 How are they with children chris? Can't have him myself as the current back yard resident probaly wouldn't put up with competition. Lovely dog though Hope he finds a good home. If you get one from a puppy they can be OK, but personally I wouldn't have one if I had young kids. An unknown adolescent male of 18 months would be a definite NO with young kids though, without a doubt. I wouldn't have any large rescue breed with young kids myself. Mostly things are OK, but if something that size or even a lot smaller grabs a child it's never good news for child or dog ;( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 If you get one from a puppy they can be OK, but personally I wouldn't have one if I had young kids. An unknown adolescent male of 18 months would be a definite NO with young kids though, without a doubt. I wouldn't have any large rescue breed with young kids myself. Mostly things are OK, but if something that size or even a lot smaller grabs a child it's never good news for child or dog ;( What I thought. I'm lucky that my GSD came from a home with a baby the same age as my daughter, so was used to a baby as a pup & has grown up with her all his life. They play like best friends in the garden (dog is 2 & daughter is 3 on the same day) & he's the softest dog on earth......but I still won't leave him alone with her. I'll ask if any of the dog handlers at work are looking for a pet if that's ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 By all means, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 Shame to hear this. I don't get it though... you say he's from a reputable dealer but was never sold, but then has spent the last 18 months having nothing done with him. So it's reading like the dealer never sold him so he's been with the breeder for 18 months? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 Shame to hear this. I don't get it though... you say he's from a reputable dealer but was never sold, but then has spent the last 18 months having nothing done with him. So it's reading like the dealer never sold him so he's been with the breeder for 18 months? Correct, but to be fair a lot of breeders would euthanase unsold pups, she keeps them and looks for a suitable home. It's uncommon for her to get stuck with one, she breeds to order. sadly once a pup goes beyond about 5 months people don't want them, they like `em young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I'm just suprised that she hasn't done the basic stuff with it herself, it's her rep on the line at the end of the day. I hope he finds a good home. I take it he's free given his problems? Possible bargain for someone who fits the bill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I'd love to be able to 'sort out' a problem dog, especially a rescue or one that might otherwise face a bad or short life. This one's not for me though obviously. Hope he finds someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 We'll have him if no one suitable turns up, he won't get put down, and a dogs home wouldn't touch him with a bargepole. In fact, to cover all bases I have just bought enough kennel panels to build him his own run, should he become a long term resident. Shucks, I'm just that kinda guy.... We are buying meat in 200 pound freezer loads now, what's another mouth to feed? It's just the logistics of several male dogs who would like to rip each other up that gets a bit galling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 We are buying meat in 200 pound freezer loads now, what's another mouth to feed? I'll be round for tea later then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 How on earth do you find time to walk them all! lol Be an interesting project for you though Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 How on earth do you find time to walk them all! lol Be an interesting project for you though Chris. I don't, I walk as many as I can and take the rest to the pub and get them legless so they CAN'T walk It is a big commitment though, we haven't had a holiday for 15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 12, 2008 Share Posted March 12, 2008 I don't, I walk as many as I can and take the rest to the pub and get them legless so they CAN'T walk It is a big commitment though, we haven't had a holiday for 15 years. In fairness though, living where you do would be a holiday for most of us!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 12, 2008 Author Share Posted March 12, 2008 In fairness though, living where you do would be a holiday for most of us!! Fair comment, we love it here and it allows us to have the animals and space to chill out, it's almost a year long holiday (well, not quite, but you know what I mean ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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