mikeyb10supra Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 im not the most experienced person when it comes to cars... but im eager enough to leanr. thats why im asking all the guestions:d Fair play dude, I wasn't having a dig at all just use the search button on here as it will uncover lots of good info for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 nope not oil cooler... but you mentioned something i didnt think of. thanks.. boost cooler is just a another name for water/methanol injection. Not a bad idea in warmer climates. i read that the supra gives a bit more performance if the exhaust cams are a bit bigger than intake.. i have it so ill put it in the faqs section. post it up so we can read it. does wasted spark give any power?? nope, the supra in stock form uses direct fire ignition, by converting to wasted spark you are halving the charge time on the coil, this causes issues with the spark not being strong enough, the result is ignition breakup and misfiring. The AEM ECU converts the ignition system to wasted spark as it doesnt have enough coil outputs, this is why a HKS DLI is required. the dictator management is used to map everything from timing to boost and fueling. do you have any links, has it been done on a supra before and does it run in piggyback on the stock ECU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Ok 8.6 seconds your going to be looking at way over 1000bhp in a supra....im affraid you cant have both, that sort of power in my opinion is for the track only, have you been in a true 500bhp car?? As wez has mentioned, get your research done and it will give you a much better idea of what you are after oohh no! i dont want a 8 second car! more around 11 or so. yip. been in a 800hp car with nos! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Have a look at this thread for drag times and setups etc http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=29073 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Not a bad idea in warmer climates. post it up so we can read it. nope, the supra in stock form uses direct fire ignition, by converting to wasted spark you are halving the charge time on the coil, this causes issues with the spark not being strong enough, the result is ignition breakup and misfiring. The AEM ECU converts the ignition system to wasted spark as it doesnt have enough coil outputs, this is why a HKS DLI is required. do you have any links, has it been done on a supra before and does it run in piggyback on the stock ECU? we use dictator on all the cars we map. but i dont map the cars personally. Cris does that. i phoned my boss just now. they are at tarlton so i can hear anything. but i will let you know about that. will post the info about the cams about the supra now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Have a look at this thread for drag times and setups etc http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=29073 damn!! thats fast!! oh about the water/meth injection... its hot over here!! in my old town it got to 40C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 i copied a small piece... The stock exhaust ports fail to flow any more air at about 8mm of lift (0.317"). Increasing high lift flow is the first thing on the mind of the man holding the die grinder. Still there is not a lot to be gained. For these reasons, staggered cam sizes seem to work well in the Supra. A longer duration exhaust cam combined with a shorter duration intake cam can yield surprising results. Never forget, your cams must compliment the engine. Part of that is recognizing that valve lift over 8mm on the exhaust only promotes valve spring failure. For that reason, I don't recommend exceeding stock lift on the exhaust side. There is no advantage except in the driver's mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 Where is that information from and is there any proof to backup the claims? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 Where is that information from and is there any proof to backup the claims? i got it of google on a supra site.. its gonna take min but ill get the link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 HAHAHAHA!! i just remebered where i got it! on this very site! so yeah i would hope that there is proof to this! http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=72776 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 here in britain we have a diffrent culture to every one else, we are realistic and truthfull with our dyno figures (except maybe a sunday afternoon in the pub:D), now i am sure i could find a dyno that will give me a figure of 800bhp, but alas it will not make it any faster, you need to try a well setup 500-600bhp car before wasting tons of cash on something undriveable on the roads, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted March 9, 2008 Share Posted March 9, 2008 This guys rocks, I don't even know where to start.... 900BHP, on a stock clutch, and doesn't want any lag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 This guys rocks, I don't even know where to start.... 900BHP, on a stock clutch, and doesn't want any lag lol! yes i want to keep it stock. im not going to do everything all at once on the car. the pistons and rods yes. keeping the stock 2 turbos. im not that stupid to think a 900hp car can have s stock clutch:tongue: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 This guys rocks, I don't even know where to start.... 900BHP, on a stock clutch, and doesn't want any lag i will admit im a newbie at cars and i dont have 50 years experiance(wait till you find out im only 18!!) but i have to start asking questions to leanr everything i need to know. im pretty sure you and the rest on this forum were newbies at cars. and asked a lot of questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo 95 Posted March 9, 2008 Author Share Posted March 9, 2008 here in britain we have a diffrent culture to every one else, we are realistic and truthfull with our dyno figures (except maybe a sunday afternoon in the pub:D), now i am sure i could find a dyno that will give me a figure of 800bhp, but alas it will not make it any faster, you need to try a well setup 500-600bhp car before wasting tons of cash on something undriveable on the roads, lol! nope not gonna dump everything i have into the car. im also investing more than half of the money. if i do everything on my list except the huge turbo then i still have more than half of the money to invest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 lol! yes i want to keep it stock. im not going to do everything all at once on the car. the pistons and rods yes. keeping the stock 2 turbos. im not that stupid to think a 900hp car can have s stock clutch:tongue: Ah ok, so you're going to upgrade the pistons and rods first while you're still on the stock turbos yes? wait till you find out im only 18!! I guessed younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marc_p Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 wait till you find out im only 18!! That's too fast for an eighteen year old!! I'm 21 this month and don't want a turbo yet, the power would be nice but I don't trust myself, you need to know the car and learn how it reacts to situations before you start pumping power like that through it. maybe after I've been driving the supra for a year i might think about buying a turbo'd one but an 18yo + a 900 bhp supra = ugly crash. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 You're the guy who asked me to give free membership because £10 was a lot of money in SA? You do realise it'll cost upwards of £15k to build an engine capable of over 700bhp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axle Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 I take it he never took the membership up in the end? Wonder if he built his 15k 1000 BHP Supra machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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