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Steve Cargill

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Originally posted by Steve Cargill

Just curious, but can the UK turbos be used as a direct replacment for the J spec ones, or is there lots of other work involved? Also what difference would they make power wise?

 

You would need to change the exhaust manifold and the fuel pump, injectors, coil packs and probably add a fuel computer to tune it half properly.

 

Benefits....a bit more HP but less torque, more top end and more lag....waste of time really.

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Guest Terry S
Originally posted by GavinL

 

You would need to change the exhaust manifold and the fuel pump, injectors, coil packs and probably add a fuel computer to tune it half properly.

 

Benefits....a bit more HP but less torque, more top end and more lag....waste of time really.

 

Why would you need to change the coil packs they are the same PN. Also the J spec ijectors woulfd be OK as long as you didn't run too much boost. As long as you changed to the UK turbo manifold & Down pipe I can't see a problem. I assume te VSV's are the same.

 

Having said all that, I can't see the advantage. If you hybrid the J spec they actually have a bigger compressor wheel already.

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Originally posted by Terry Saunders

Why would you need to change the coil packs they are the same PN. Also the J spec ijectors woulfd be OK as long as you didn't run too much boost. As long as you changed to the UK turbo manifold & Down pipe I can't see a problem. I assume te VSV's are the same.

 

Having said all that, I can't see the advantage. If you hybrid the J spec they actually have a bigger compressor wheel already.

 

Apparently the fluttering noise I get on part throttle at 2.5>3k RPM means my turbos are on the way out and I'm looking at options so when they do go I know what to get - may even change before they go, it depends.

 

If I also need a new manifold and a new de-cat pipe then it's probably not worth the hassel anyway.

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Originally posted by Terry Saunders

 

Why would you need to change the coil packs they are the same PN. Also the J spec ijectors woulfd be OK as long as you didn't run too much boost. As long as you changed to the UK turbo manifold & Down pipe I can't see a problem. I assume te VSV's are the same.

 

Having said all that, I can't see the advantage. If you hybrid the J spec they actually have a bigger compressor wheel already.

 

I was under the impression that the impedence of the packs were different between models. I'm probably wrong, it has happened once before :D

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Originally posted by Steve Cargill

 

Apparently the fluttering noise I get on part throttle at 2.5>3k RPM means my turbos are on the way out and I'm looking at options so when they do go I know what to get - may even change before they go, it depends.

 

 

Steve, I get a simelar noise from my hybrids, JB & Adam Wooten have both heard the noise too, I dont think it means the turbo is shot (well I hope not!). Its quite hard to describe the sound it makes, but maybe its just a wastegate problem. I've yet to get it back to Leon to take a look for me.

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Gavin the injectors are a different impedence but this needs a resistor pack & does not affect the coils.

 

Steve, I believe I have seen you car at Leon's. By the time you have got the UK turbos , manifold & DP then you may as well get a set of his hybrids.

 

Barry, yours should be pretty indestructible. I will be interested to hear what Leon says though. If your turbos were f*cked you'd know by now.

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Terry, that was my car at Leons - I think it was starting to become part of his garden ;) but it's back now, still a few things to do to it, but at least it's back on the road now :D :D

 

After I got it back I noticed the noise and when it went back for it's check up I took him out and let him hear it and that was his diagnosis - it also seems a little bit down on power (less aggresive that it was) on the first turbo.

 

The noise is only noticable at about 1/2 throttle when the car is pulling (auto) and about 8-10lbs boost. You can only hear it with the windows up. Hard to describe it, but it pulses about 3 times a second - fluttering steam train maybe....

 

I may have been able to get a good deal on a pair of UK turbos, but as you say with all the other changes hybrids are the way to go.

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Originally posted by Terry Saunders

Barry, yours should be pretty indestructible. I will be interested to hear what Leon says though. If your turbos were f*cked you'd know by now.

 

I know. I have a feeling its something to do with the wastegate, performance hasn't been affected at all.

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