Willson Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 You are right about getting import models without the DVB tuner. I couldnt be bothered with the risk of what I might be getting from some unknown internet box shifter so I bought from a Panasonic shop. I looked at the AV receiver thing but lost interest when I found out they dont normally have the ability to switch formats between input and output. IE you cant have a component input, output to the tv as HDMI. Possibly on the more expensive ones, but not on the ONKYO 505 (thats my understanding anyway). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 You have to get 1080p if you're going for such a large set, 720 will show off the lmits of the resolution on a larger screen. My gf has a nice Sony 52" 1080p TV and its phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Well, other half just read the thread and as predicted went purely on looks. She's not convinced on the PZ70B althought she didn't dismiss it so I'm gonna take her out to the big Comet in Edinburgh for a look at them all shortly. Hopefully she'll realise the PZ70B is the one to have after seeing it and the price of it in the shops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 theres a difference in the models, the c96 is basically a lower model (the c is the model code and the 96 is the model variant). the new ones the Q97 (i.e from the Q range and the latest model as theres no Q98). for the extra money (less than £200) id go for the Q97. but thats just me Saumsung Q97. Review Here That is what I have as well and it is fantastic, well under a grand, I think I paid 800 for mine. excellent for SD, SKY, Xbox, Wii and a very very good HD set as well. You have to get 1080p if you're going for such a large set, 720 will show off the lmits of the resolution on a larger screen. My gf has a nice Sony 52" 1080p TV and its phenomenal. Depends what signal you are throwing at it....if 1080 (most of the time) then I agree....but having said that, a lot of the 1080 screens do a pathetic job with signals of lesser quality. Question to ask yourself is what are you going to be watching the most on the TV and then work from there. Most tend to fall for the marketing bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Rental is about £50 a month - 12 months...so £600 for a year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Depends what signal you are throwing at it....if 1080 (most of the time) then I agree....but having said that, a lot of the 1080 screens do a pathetic job with signals of lesser quality. Question to ask yourself is what are you going to be watching the most on the TV and then work from there. Most tend to fall for the marketing bollocks. Mainly US HD tv channels (mainly 1080 broadcast apart from the sports), PS3 and Blu Ray movies. Plus it came with a deal to have a 65" Pioneer plasma set for 1/2 price too, so hard to resist - it makes a good bedroom tv Thats good marketing bollocks A lesser quality (720p) signal will look worse on a bigger set... but who buys a big 1080p TV and worries about SD or non 1080p signals? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Went and looked at all the different ranges today and she likes the PZ70B enough for us to go for that one. Found it for £1,189 on dixons website with a discount code to further drop the price £20..... but delivery is £20 so £1,189 delivered. Think that's my best bet to get one cheaply that's definatey going to be UK specification so will order it up from them Which leads me on to my next topic, a home theatre sound setup to compliment it that isn't gonna cost the earth.... will post a new thread. Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ads Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Arn't you best to go for a LCD TV for playing on your Xbox? I thought plasma TV's had ghosting issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Mainly US HD tv channels (mainly 1080 broadcast apart from the sports), PS3 and Blu Ray movies. Plus it came with a deal to have a 65" Pioneer plasma set for 1/2 price too, so hard to resist - it makes a good bedroom tv Thats good marketing bollocks A lesser quality (720p) signal will look worse on a bigger set... but who buys a big 1080p TV and worries about SD or non 1080p signals? We bought ours (50") mainly for SD (freeview), SKY (scart) and the occasional HD (1080 DVD) and tbh, the plasma of this size does an amazing job compared to LCD for the same size and same signal (only exception is 1080p) Most LCD's over 32" / 37" struggle with signals of less than HD and look absolutely shite - and yes you still have the issue with motion on most LCDs unfortunately. Arn't you best to go for a LCD TV for playing on your Xbox? I thought plasma TV's had ghosting issues? Regarding Ghosting - Not an issue with the modern ones....they sort themselves out. Yes LCD is best for the computer (no of pixels)...but tbh, with a good quality plasma like the samsung model that I quoted it is very very hard to tell the difference from my experience of both. This is all in my opinion based on personal experience. I have both plasma and LCD. I choose Plasma for screens over 32 / 37" and LCD otherwise. And I go for screens that are less than 1500 as the technology is changing so fast, I dont see the point in investing in cutting edge formats when not many channels or media support it. Go with whatever makes you happy and try and avoid the marketing bollocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 We bought ours (50") mainly for SD (freeview), SKY (scart) and the occasional HD (1080 DVD) and tbh, the plasma of this size does an amazing job compared to LCD for the same size and same signal (only exception is 1080p) Most LCD's over 32" / 37" struggle with signals of less than HD and look absolutely shite - and yes you still have the issue with motion on most LCDs unfortunately. Well yeah, but you're investing in a set in preparation for the future signal of TV arnt ya, who's gonna give 2 hoots about SD in the years to come? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Is the 1080p model worth the extra over the non 1080p model? I'm surprised that I'm the only one who's mentioned viewing distance, it's one of the most important factors when deciding what TV to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted February 23, 2008 Author Share Posted February 23, 2008 Home theatre thread: http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?p=1827105 Help and advice appreciated as always! Cheers, Brian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Well yeah, but you're investing in a set in preparation for the future signal of TV arnt ya, who's gonna give 2 hoots about SD in the years to come? I rather enjoy the picture quality of what is available today....and worry about the future when it comes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I'm surprised that I'm the only one who's mentioned viewing distance, it's one of the most important factors when deciding what TV to get. ABSOLUTELY.....CRITICAL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 I rather enjoy the picture quality of what is available today....and worry about the future when it comes. Well its already here in blu ray? SD is the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatSport Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 No contest really, Pioneer Kuro by a country mile.... as long as it`s calibrated right. I`ve the 4280xd hooked up to a Media Centre with Blu-ray, Satellite etc, and nothing 1080p lcd wise comes near.. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2041/pdp4280xdlt7.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 It's not £1k though and that is the budget! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well its already here in blu ray? SD is the past. i'll wait until most of the TV channels start broadcasting in true HD until I worry about my TV screen being 100% optimised for it. until then, for me it doesnt make much sense to dish out on a screen that is optimised for a format that I dont watch that often and is useless at the ones that I do. No contest really, Pioneer Kuro by a country mile.... as long as it`s calibrated right. I`ve the 4280xd hooked up to a Media Centre with Blu-ray, Satellite etc, and nothing 1080p lcd wise comes near.. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2041/pdp4280xdlt7.jpg That looks impressive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 i'll wait until most of the TV channels start broadcasting in true HD until I worry about my TV screen being 100% optimised for it. until then, for me it doesnt make much sense to dish out on a screen that is optimised for a format that I dont watch that often and is useless at the ones that I do. That looks impressive. Useless at the ones you do? Are you kidding? Panasonic has one of the best ratings for SD available. Again, the only TV i know above it is the Pioneer. I'd rather pay the extra 200 just now and have it futureproof than save the 200 now and have to fork out another 1k later. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 No contest really, Pioneer Kuro by a country mile.... as long as it`s calibrated right. I`ve the 4280xd hooked up to a Media Centre with Blu-ray, Satellite etc, and nothing 1080p lcd wise comes near.. http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2041/pdp4280xdlt7.jpg They are better, but not "country mile" better. The SD picture is a bit better, and its noticeable, but not enough to justify the price difference. In fact i noticed SKY HD was a bit better on the pioneer too, again not much. However, I noticed a difference with the bluray, the panasonic was better IMO. Think that was down to it being true HD though. The colours were a little better on the pioneer but the clarity was amazing on the panasonic. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tDR Posted February 24, 2008 Author Share Posted February 24, 2008 RE: SD - will the TV's SD performance really matter when those signals will be running through whatever amp I get and so be getting upscaled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I'd rather pay the extra 200 just now and have it futureproof than save the 200 now and have to fork out another 1k later. Scott =op So for an extra £200 are you getting a true 1080p HD screen that is optimised for HD and yet does an excellent job with SD signals unlike most of the others. If so then which screen is this and how much does it cost? If not, then I am extremely happy with my Samsung and am glad you are happy with whatever else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willson Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 RE: SD - will the TV's SD performance really matter when those signals will be running through whatever amp I get and so be getting upscaled? Yeah, its still SD though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 As Imi says, most people in UK aren't watching 1080p TV, are they? What percentage of your viewing time is spent watching anything other than SD? Surely for the vast majority of us we are watching SD 90+% of the time. I know Rob spends a lot of time in the states, so he probably has a lot more access to HD broadcast TV, but for us UK guys watching TV, probably through a Sky box, its the SD performance that's most important - isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Just to give you lot something to gloat over - I paid 2 grand a few years ago for a Hitachi 42" which was being touted as HD Ready. It was also being sold by Sky (with a few less connections) as their own brand. Sky changed their minds on the HD format they were going to use and now I'm stuck with a TV that doesn't do 1080. AND I'm going to have to get an adapter if I want to see 720p. Mind you, I'm blowed if I'd pay them an extra tenner a month anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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