Pabs Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Well unless the company your working for is doing well and can afford to pay you more why should they? I love it how thanks to the government hiking up prices, fudging inflation figures and leading us into a recession employers are expected to start paying employees more to cope with it. Companies have rising bills to pay as well you know. I think maybe I missed what I was trying to say: Everyone works for a company who aim to make profit. Most companies make a profit, yet that profit is not passed down to the employee's. Examples: Shell/British Gas etc etc all showing that they've got record profits in the £bn region - but does that money go to employee's? Does it ***k. I work for a big bank who put up their interest rates, charges etc and yet still make £££'s profit. Where does this profit go??? If these companies are making record profits this year, why the HELL do they still need to increase prices?!?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 I work for a big bank who put up their interest rates, charges etc and yet still make £££'s profit. Where does this profit go??? If these companies are making record profits this year, why the HELL do they still need to increase prices?!?!?! I agree with that. I'm coming from the point of view of small to medium businesses - the ones that are really hit by raising labour costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 The point of the recent increases / proposed increases with the price of booze, fags and petrol is to deter people from using them. If companies then increased the salaries they were paying their employees then that deterrant would be nullified so the prices would have to go up more. Anyway, what seems to have been missed is that it is still a minority of the population that are "binge drinking". However once again it's the masses that have to pay out. The people that will go out and buy alcohol to drink in moderation are going to be penalised because the government are taking the easy route. As has been said, the only effective long term method of changing the situation is to change the binge drinking culture of this minority. That is an extremely more difficult thing to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 Yes, that's all true I suppose. I think I'm going off on a tangent to this thread, as I am totally FOR the price increases on alcohol/fags etc (things we don't rely on) but I'm just miffed that the prices of necessities (water/gas/electric/petrol) increase more regularly, and of course this affects everyone on a much larger scale, as it's not like we can cut back on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I'm thinking of getting into home brewing - that's one way to circumvent the tax man, and get involved in a constructive hobby too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted February 25, 2008 Author Share Posted February 25, 2008 I used to do that mate. I have all the kit, proper beer barrels the lot. Its actually quite expensive and a proper PITA to make. Easiest by far is the ciders as they don't tend to go off as easily. When you make 25 litres at a time and a batch goes bad thats a lot of cash down the drain. I got a bit heavy handed with one batch of white cider once and ended up with 12 or 13% stuff times 25 litres. One pint would almost stick me on my ass I have the kit still and intend to use it again this spring into summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I used to do that mate. I have all the kit, proper beer barrels the lot. Its actually quite expensive and a proper PITA to make. Easiest by far is the ciders as they don't tend to go off as easily. When you make 25 litres at a time and a batch goes bad thats a lot of cash down the drain. I got a bit heavy handed with one batch of white cider once and ended up with 12 or 13% stuff times 25 litres. One pint would almost stick me on my ass I have the kit still and intend to use it again this spring into summer. Go for the good old corn mash moonshine. Bit of copper piping and some creative brazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuohy Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The point of the recent increases / proposed increases with the price of booze, fags and petrol is to deter people from using them. It seems to me that they only put these prices up to "deter" people on products that people will not, or can not give up. They know that it will generate more revenue as sales will not really be affected. I know I personally will carry on buying beer etc unless they whack the prices up ridiculously. Maybe we should start a revolution... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Anybody up for a bit of friendly competition. Been chatting to DB about having a cider and shine/hooch tasting meeting perhaps later in the year for people to erm sample member's brews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris burford Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I heard about this increase on telly earlier involving tesco and it was about inflating the price of very strong lagers i.e special brew and super t to try and get it off the streets of london lets just hopes thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geneb Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Can't drink alcohol anymore so does not effect me but still think its just extra revenue for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Anyone got any plans for a still? Purely as a none functional decorative item, of course? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Anyone got any plans for a still? Purely as a none functional decorative item, of course? I've found a few on google, but nothing special...Might have to be a copper sheet job with a gas torch. http://homedistiller.org/designs.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 The problem is kids buying a 16 bottle crate and sitting on someone elses garden wall, getting slaughtered then causing trouble. It isn't people getting drunk in pubs or in their own homes, it's ferel kids on streets- why not make drink containers utterly impossible to drink out of- say a tapered neck so everything spills down their fronts and other bizzarre ideas- kids aren't going to carry a glass around with them and they'll be quite unsuccessful trying to pour a drink into an old lemonade bottle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted February 26, 2008 Author Share Posted February 26, 2008 Make beer cans out of that old pottery stuff so it weighs a tonne, They can't run away from the old bill with a wheel barrow of booze they also wouldn't be able to hide a wheel barrow of it behind the mother in laws wall when the police drive past the bus stop outside her house. I am so up for this cider-off comp with possibly a more refined version as well. Chris will win for simplest but most effective machine for extraction of said refined material for sure lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 If companies then increased the salaries they were paying their employees then that deterrant would be nullified so the prices would have to go up more. Do you honestly think that pay increases, no matter what the source is would cover the rate of inflation, let alone the additional proposed rise on alcohol? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lbm Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Just give up drinking alcohol...Who's with me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 I'm thinking of getting into home brewing - that's one way to circumvent the tax man, and get involved in a constructive hobby too. My old man makes his own beer and it's a very respectable drop. Far better than the stuff I made in Saudi, but then he has access to the proper kit. Works out about 20p a pint too if I remember correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 26, 2008 Share Posted February 26, 2008 Just get rid of feral kids, Brazilians have some great ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 21, 2008 Author Share Posted July 21, 2008 Anybody up for a bit of friendly competition. Been chatting to DB about having a cider and shine/hooch tasting meeting perhaps later in the year for people to erm sample member's brews OK I just pressure barreled up 25 litres of medium dry cider. I will get another 25 litres on the go at the weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris burford Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 Raise the age of drinking to 21 that would lower the amount of alcohol induced crime i,e public order/violent offences and the amount of drink drive offenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted July 21, 2008 Share Posted July 21, 2008 They're going to have to raise it a LOT before they put me off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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