Multics Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Reading on BBC website about the new scheme. It is said that cars registered before 2001 will have to pay £25 charge if they're 3.000cc. Does our supra's fall in that category? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7242445.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Reading on BBC website about the new scheme. It is said that cars registered before 2001 will have to pay £25 charge if they're 3.000cc. Does our supra's fall in that category? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/7242445.stm Looks that way, as Supras were well before 2001. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 "Cars registered before March 2001 will pay the charge if their engines are bigger than three litres". The 2JZ is 2997 cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 My Supra is 2997cc..... Not that I would be going to London in it anyway!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 It's another stealth tax, none of the money raised will be used to 'save the planet', it just goes into the pot. Who here would drive their supra in central london during the charging times anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Multics Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 That's what I thought too, but since it's also refered as 3.0L it leads to confusion. Fingers crossed as I'll have to drive quite often within the congestion charge zone. "Cars registered before March 2001 will pay the charge if their engines are bigger than three litres". The 2JZ is 2997 cc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 It's another stealth tax, none of the money raised will be used to 'save the planet', it just goes into the pot. Who here would drive their supra in central london during the charging times anyway? I wouldn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 well i took mine the other day and payed congestion charge over the phone of 8 pounds so il see what happens the guy who i payed it to over the phone didnt say anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I wouldn't drive anything to London these days. I'm f***ed if I'm going to contribute to the Livingstone slush fund! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Who here would drive their supra in central london during the charging times anyway? Well if you live in the zone you really don't have much choice. well i took mine the other day and payed congestion charge over the phone of 8 pounds so il see what happens the guy who i payed it to over the phone didnt say anything The £25 a day charge doesn't come in until October and as has been stated it's only pre-2001 cars over 3000cc that have to pay that much so all Supras will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazz1 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 well just to warn you guys its the last time il take my car london theres so many stupid bumps my bumper kept touching:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Anywhere you cant drive to sensibly isnt worth worrying about.... Ive ventured into london about 6 times in my entire life (i live about 45 mins train ride from the centre!), 3 of those for work - i avoid it like the plauge, hellish place. I liked the way the Mayor said the charges were subject to change where small eco friendly cars were conserned.... Translation: we will get you out of your 4x4's and into prius's, then change our mind again and charge everyone £50 a day..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Well if you live in the zone you really don't have much choice.Of course you do - London's the only place in the country that does have decent public transport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben-san Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I thought it was going to be based on the road tax price bands. This is a truly disgusting example of why Ken shouldn't be mayor any more, better road planning, traffic light phasing and genuine policing would make the biggest improvements to congestion (& emmissions, as stationary cars pollute more than moving ones per mile). At the moment it will only apply as per the current CC timings i.e. Mon-Fri 7am to 6pm. Of course, that's not to say he won't change the terms in the future so that it is implemented as per the Low Emmission Zone, i.e. 24hrs a day, 365 days a year. But for the moment if you drive a £25 car then you won't pay the charge unless you usually pay the £8 charge. What a crock - let's just be 'green' during office hours. I've been studying this table: http://www.tfl.gov.uk/corporate/projectsandschemes... And it seems that no matter which way I look at it, cars pre-2001 with engine size above 3000cc will be liable anyway. However, post 2001 cars with large engines that have a CO2 book figure below 225g/km will not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I'd like to see Kens scientific research to legally justify this 'emissions' tax. If a car passes the emissions test on a MOT as set by VOSA (the governing body of the MOT scheme) then how can he legally charge you an 'emissions' tax - especially if it isnt going to be enforced 24/7. Is he saying that HE knows better than VOSA and that pollution only occurs during the CZ charging times? If they (those w*nkers in goverment) want to reduce emissions - they should consult with VOSA on emissions testing in MOTs. We pay road tax to use the road, so why should Ken be able to charge you more for certain parts of it? Did you know that the black cabs produce more emissions (233g/km CO2) than most other vehicles on the road (such as the Porsche Boxter - 222g/km CO2), yet London is swarming with them and they are exempt from such taxation (god knows what the buses are pumping out). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Did you know that the black cabs produce more emissions (233g/km CO2) than most other vehicles on the road (such as the Porsche Boxter - 222g/km CO2), yet London is swarming with them and they are exempt from such taxation (god knows what the buses are pumping out). Had the misfortune to follow a bus recently? Last time i was in bristol i was parked up on a busy bus route for about 15 mins, nearly passed out due to the fumes they kick out - most of them were pretty empty as well, great for the environment and peoples health! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Of course you do - London's the only place in the country that does have decent public transport. Not, unfortunately, if you work inside London, but live outside. Many times in my old job I had no choice but to drive in to the centre of London, because the trains didn't run late enough to get me back out again. Those of you who automatically assume that only morons drive in London should consider that not everyone's circumstances are the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 I'd like to see Ken's scientific research to legally justify this 'emissions' tax. If the research didn't support his pre-conceived ideas, he'd just suppress it until he could have it rewritten. http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/News/newsresults/mcn/2008/February-1-3/11-17/feb1208kenlivingstonecostinglives/?&R=EPI-98535 TfL said in a statement: "Our officers had concerns about the validity of some of the early results of the study, which were shared by Greater London Authority officials. Further work has been carried out and when our senior officers are satisfied that their concerns have been met the report will be submitted to the Mayor.'' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 London has issue with the traffic light system, thats what causes the congestion. Charging £25 will do nothing for the underlying issue. But as it is "saving the planet" thats ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Just another good reason to avoid the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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