gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I was driving up from tescos tonight and someone stopped me to say my back wheels were wobbling quite bad.So i thought since i got 2 new tyres fitted and its the first time ive used it since that they had not been tightened right up. When i checked the 5 nuts on each wheel are solid. Thinking back to when the tyres were fitted the guy didnt balance the wheels would this make that much of a difference,i really dont want to drive it untill i get this sorted,any ideas:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 You had tyres fitted without balancing?? Get them balanced...it could even be a warped alloy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 That would need to be 2 warped alloys mate and they were fine before the new tyres.Maybe it was my stupidity but i thought when the wheels were ok with old tyres they would be ok with new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Tyre balancing is to make the best of both items. Tyres aren't perfect and do wobble unless matched. Alloys are the same, they aren't perfectly true. Put both these together and you have a new element. It is this rubber and alloy that are balanced as one unit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buster Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 na tyres might have slightly odd surface on them witch can cause a slight in balance in the whole wheel am i right! anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Yeah sounds like they need balanced is it ok to drive it a couple of miles to get them done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 sounds dodgy! the wheel/tyre should not wobble at all, even if it is pooly balanced, can you feel it? must be bad is someone is pulling you over to tell you... maybe they were pulling your leg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Do you have concentric rings? Just because the bolts are tight does not mean the wheels were correctly fitted. If this is due to the tyre place you should be on to trading standards, you could have killed your self or someone else. Remember it is the drivers responsibility to check the car is road worthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 You cant feel any movement through steering but when i lean out the door to look and drive slowly the wheel does wobble although its bolted on solid(same on both sides) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dann Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Jack it up and see if you can wobble your wheel, when i fitted my alloys I tighted up the rear wheel nuts only to find that they were to small and was not fully pushing on the alloy I had to get a set of longer wheel nuts (about 30mm long) to go on and this worked fine. the garage may have lost your wheel nuts and just fitted them back on with some others that are not quiet long enough or not tappered if needed to be etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 when i lean out the door to look and drive slowly the wheel does wobble That's not good, you mean wobble as if buckled? perhaps they tightened it down with something between the wheel and hub, I'd have it off and have a look! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 That's not good, you mean wobble as if buckled? perhaps they tightened it down with something between the wheel and hub, I'd have it off and have a look! Could be the little ring has moved and caught under a portion of the alloy, either which way, get i back there, balanced and check. A proper balancing should also determine if the alloy is bent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Will do after work tomorrow gav cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Mike what could have been between the wheel and the hub surely plastic wouldnt buckle the wheeel would it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Mike what could have been between the wheel and the hub surely plastic wouldnt buckle the wheeel would it No,but would cause it to run out of true and cause a wobble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 I will have to jack it up tommorow and check i also noticed that the volk wheels have more holes than the five required is there maybe a certain way they go on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Mike what could have been between the wheel and the hub surely plastic wouldnt buckle the wheeel would it a spanner?? lol could be something stupid like a crushed stone, or the spigot ring could be jammed, but you say both are wonky? I'd have the wheels off first thing in the morning and double check before you drive anywhere I will have to jack it up tommorow and check i also noticed that the volk wheels have more holes than the five required is there maybe a certain way they go on it should be impossible to bolt them on through the wrong holes, but never say never! be interested to hear what it was though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Im working till 3 tomorrow mike but i will check them as soon as i get home and certainly before i drive it cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share Posted February 3, 2008 Took the wheels off and there is nothing behind them it is strange but i think both wheels are buckled as they do not bolt hard on to the car there is a small gap at one side. I have managed to slacken nuts on one side of the wheel and tighten on the other to get them near as straight looks like a new set of rims for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 Do you have concentric rings? I was thinking that too - I took a Hyundai in p/x for a car I sold, 2 of the alloys had the rings missing, 2 had the wrong ones fitted so the wheels didn't sit against the hub. It was a nasty drive! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snake Posted February 3, 2008 Share Posted February 3, 2008 I have volk alloys and there are concentric rings in the centre check this out as they are easy to miss. If the car was ok before you had work done then this may be the cause as previously stated above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 3, 2008 Author Share Posted February 3, 2008 what are concentric rings and if the garage has lost them can i get more,cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 what are concentric rings and if the garage has lost them can i get more,cheers The hub that you see when you take the wheel off should be a snug fit with the wheel inner, as it is with the original alloys, most aftermarket loys have a bigger hole, so a sleeve (concentric/spigot rings) is pushed in to the wheel so it will be a perfect fit to the hub. Yes you can buy them, alloy dealers, ebay etc. Without them you will have a bumpy ride & self loosing nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordy07 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Share Posted February 8, 2008 I took the wheels off and there are not spigot rings(not sure if there should be)but when i started tightening the wheels it was as if they were buckled as one side would not pull onto the hub but the other would.Im pretty sure they are not buckled as both wheels were fine before i got the tyres changed. I managed to slacken some nuts and tighten others until i had the wheels running true and straight but im still not sure if they were like that when i bought the car or something has happened when the tyres were changed or wheels put back on. Ive been trying to source concentric/spigot rings for my wheels but when i search for my volks it seems they dont make them anymore.(see my garage as i dont know how to put the pics here) Anyone know what volk wheels ive got,cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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