bolarbag Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 I'm looking for a good quality Exh Manifold, preferably with an option to have Vband flanges for the Turbo Exh connections, its for a single turbo application, responsive and powering an output between 500-600bhp Pos turbos getting used Garret GT35R Gt4088R (probably both) something that can aint gonna take a year to make no xs ones and the boost logic dont tickle my fancy either whats the others? Traders feel free to pm prices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Arnouts cast iron one would be my choice, no question at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Rough Price please? Link? Pm if you like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooquicktostop Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 Rough Price please? Link? Pm if you like I would be interested in this to, I have a HKS manifold at present and could sell this as an item with the HKS T04R and HKS downpipe, I am adding a T67 DBB and as its a new engine and new turbo a new manifold would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 I just did a search and seen the turbonetics manifold that arnouts was apparently based on, it looks very much like the phr street manifold, which is quite restrictive when increasing boost in bigger turbos, who has had experience with arnouts mani? I'd be worried about going for a mani without any R&D at all, although I acknowledge sometimes enthusiasts can come up with better ideas My main option(and probably still is) Full Race, but they have like a 6week backlog plus shipping time, and they have 2wastegate ports (I assume for bigger horsepower applications), one 50mm wastegate should be sufficient for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted February 1, 2008 Author Share Posted February 1, 2008 Just to add.... the finish on this boost logic one just looks awfull, is there other types of BL manifolds? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 (probably both) Do you actually know what you are looking for? What specifically is it you are seeing as an issue with the finish on a bad picture of a BL manifold? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 My BL manifold is pretty nice actually. It's the pic that is bad mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 1, 2008 Share Posted February 1, 2008 If you want a quality custom manifold you can try Hayward and Scott, they are not cheap but they are very good, google them for more info. Arnout manifold on the left, Induction Motorsport on the right which is modified turbonetics. Arnout manifold assembled with turbo and downpipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syed Shah Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Full Race. IF your not on any time constraint, mind. They are slow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 If I was building mine again, I'd go with one of Arnout's cast manifolds also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kylestt Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The "finish" on the BL manifold in that picture is that of coating material for temperatures/heat. The picture may or may not help but Boost Logic manifolds have proven themselves on major hp builds here in the states. I personally run Virtual Works Racing products on my car. At any rate, let me know if you have questions on the turbos or manifolds you have mentioned. I have experience with all of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 The "finish" on the BL manifold in that picture is that of coating material for temperatures/heat. The picture may or may not help but Boost Logic manifolds have proven themselves on major hp builds here in the states. I personally run Virtual Works Racing products on my car. At any rate, let me know if you have questions on the turbos or manifolds you have mentioned. I have experience with all of it. Gorgeous stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AshBhp Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Full Race Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Rough Price please? Link? Pm if you like Don't know how much, sorry, but you can ask Arnout direct at: Arnout van der Kamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Arnouts cast iron one would be my choice, no question at all. same here, although if you cant get hold of one, contact full race, I believe they offer full refunds on cracked tubular manifolds should something go wrong! at a true 600bhp arnouts may run out of flow but not 100% on that, I guess it would need testing, I believe simon b was fitting a t67 up on his last time he was on here so could be around that figure once he has finished If I remember there around 400ish, I picked mine up second hand for 300 which was a good price and picked up wastegate return pipes/downpipe and flanges separately for around another 150/200 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I thought the reasoning behind Arnouts manifold was to allow for bigger turbos like the BL67, he also improved the wastegate port by having a larger opening with thicker walls and a 3 bolt flange. The turbonetics wastegate port is far from ideal as it is small and only uses a 2 bolt flange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 I thought the reasoning behind Arnouts manifold was to allow for bigger turbos like the BL67, he also improved the wastegate port by having a larger opening with thicker walls and a 3 bolt flange. The turbonetics wastegate port is far from ideal as it is small and only uses a 2 bolt flange. You could be right wez, I know the wastegate port on arnout was made biggers and runners were slightly bigger in diameter, I just dont think I would be brave enough to test it out with a large turbo. Simon B is the best fella to ask, he is runnig the biggest turbo so far on the manifold....im not sure of anyone else running anything bigger in the UK? im sure if he sees this he will post up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Pos turbos getting used Garret GT35R Gt4088R (probably both)\ If you're fitting the GT35R then I'd definitely go with one of Arnout's manifolds, it may not look as sexy, but you should get fantastic response from the setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 If you're fitting the GT35R then I'd definitely go with one of Arnout's manifolds, it may not look as sexy, but you should get fantastic response from the setup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted February 2, 2008 Share Posted February 2, 2008 Did somebody call? I have indeed got a T67DBB on Arnout's manifold. It made 625bhp on Owen development's dyno while being mapped last summer. That was on a built engine, but it had no head-work as such. I got the feeling that was about the limit, both of a standard head and also probably the manifold/pipework. I'm currently rebuilding by old engine to swap in and that's going to get a ported head. I'll may well switch to a slightly bigger A/R exhaust housing too, so I'm trying to decide at the moment whether to stick with the cast manifold or go for a tubular one (probably a HKS). Haven't quite decided yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted February 4, 2008 Author Share Posted February 4, 2008 I like Arnouts, looks very much oem quality, very good price, but I'm put off being restricted when upgrading turbos in the future, I do want a responsive setup, but using a GT35R with a good quality mani should be responsive enough, the power would be too much down low with a mani like Arnouts I suspect, I think its gonna be full race, I'm awaiting a quote, with a mani like that changing turbo setups with Vbands would be pretty quick, and with a couple pre defined maps should give me a good all round powerful sup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Did somebody call? I have indeed got a T67DBB on Arnout's manifold. It made 625bhp on Owen development's dyno while being mapped last summer. That was on a built engine, but it had no head-work as such. I got the feeling that was about the limit, both of a standard head and also probably the manifold/pipework. I'm currently rebuilding by old engine to swap in and that's going to get a ported head. I'll may well switch to a slightly bigger A/R exhaust housing too, so I'm trying to decide at the moment whether to stick with the cast manifold or go for a tubular one (probably a HKS). Haven't quite decided yet. I bet that goes well, any dyno graphs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I have absolutely no doubt Full Race make the best tubular manifolds in the world, the quality of materials, design, construction and most of all the power gains. Arnouts cast manifold will also be great, but I wouldn't run it on turbo larger than a T67 if power is your goal. Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Arnouts cast iron one would be my choice, no question at all. Rough Price please? Link? http://www.suprasport.nl/Supra_MK_IV/Turbocharger/SSE_cast_manifold.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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