lust2luv Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Doubt he's an insider, he has to massively rewrite his theory after each episode is screened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 But do we believe the time loop theory? I'd have to say I think the helicopter trip showed that it's perception of time that is altered rather than actual time, ie: The island never went back in time or got caught in a loop but peoples perception of how time flows changes on the island, like time goes faster on the island. That doesn't explain how it was daylight when they came through the storm though really, unless they 'percieved' a few hours of time in a couple of seconds in the storm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Maybe time on the island is flowing faster to catch up with the rest of the world, after all the looping it went through before the hatch blew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Maybe the storm/thunderhead is a time differential barrier. The missile got to the island much quicker than the helicopter reaching the boat. Also the pilot had to follow a bearing provided by Daniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Huh? I was referring to a link I found in this very thread, posted by someone else. I didn't see you getting in one of your little tizzies with them though. Besides which, there nothing there that you could accidentally read if you didn't want to know. I've just read my post again and it sounds like i'm calling you an &rse, i wasnt, so sorry if it came accross like that, i meant it as: "&rse - i now know the ending :(" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I'm in two minds about Lost at the moment. Part of me wishes I hadn't wasted 47 hours of my life, the other half wants to get into reading the theories about it all and get wrapped up in the whole thing. I've not read any of the above posts so I think I'll just carry on watching it in dribs and drabs making my own mind up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 It's all conjecture Matt. I can spot a couple of flaws in his theorys, so I doubt he's an insider. For example, he doesn't even know the identities of the "6" FFS. Could he not just be keeping the actuall details of each show sacred tho? i dont know i tried to keep away from it, but i read so much that i carried on. Give us a few examples Ivan.? Besides which, there nothing there that you could accidentally read if you didn't want to know. eye, but i thought it was speculation at first, then i thought this all makes far to much sense for it not to be. but then again, i didnt read everything so maybe im over reacting. Doubt he's an insider, he has to massively rewrite his theory after each episode is screened. Oh right, wouldnt know as i've only just that site but what you say makes sense, to be fair though, hes done a damn good job of fitting things together thus far, way ahead of me anyway But do we believe the time loop theory? I'd have to say I think the helicopter trip showed that it's perception of time that is altered rather than actual time, ie: The island never went back in time or got caught in a loop but peoples perception of how time flows changes on the island, like time goes faster on the island. That doesn't explain how it was daylight when they came through the storm though really, unless they 'percieved' a few hours of time in a couple of seconds in the storm? Good point, i'm hopeing its nothing really to do with time, as i hate the idea of time travel (its just ridiculous) paradox's etc. But what hes says is damn convincing Maybe time on the island is flowing faster to catch up with the rest of the world, after all the looping it went through before the hatch blew? Wouldnt that mean that days would be shorter etc, i think that would be the case and there hasnt been any mention of really fast sunrises and sunsets Maybe the storm/thunderhead is a time differential barrier. The missile got to the island much quicker than the helicopter reaching the boat. Also the pilot had to follow a bearing provided by Daniel. Well what ever it is there is definitly a time related angle that is extremely important to the entire story (good or bad i dont know - but with whats happened so far, i'm sure the writers wont let us down) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I think I'll just carry on watching it in dribs and drabs making my own mind up. Well as long as you watch all the episodes consecutively, if you miss one out or watch a later eposide before an earlier one (or miss one out) one then it both spoils and messes the experiance and understanding up for an individual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Personally, i've always thought from the beginning that the island is in some sort of differnet place, only accessable by traveling through a direct path (sort of like a black hole) - this might be a time thing or something else remember when Walt and his dad tried to sail away and they couldnt get away from the island, it was like its on its own little planet?! HERES A THEORY FOR YOU!: in keeping with the time related theory........................... THE REASON WHY NO ONE CAN FIND THE ISLAND IN THE PRESENT TIME IS BECAUSE IS DOESNT EXIST ANYMORE IN THE PRESENT TIME! AND THE ONLY WAY TO GET TO THE ISLAND IS TO GO THROUGH THIS RIFT IN TIME (the special co-ordinates, kinda like a black hole) and back in time to when the island existed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 remember when Walt and his dad tried to sail away and they couldnt get away from the island, it was like its on its own little planet?! I'm trying to remember where currently are they? Did Locke really see Walt or was a hallucination/mirage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I'm trying to remember where currently are they? Did Locke really see Walt or was a hallucination/mirage? According to that other website, Walt is "half dead" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 Well I'm saving the whole lot and fully intend rewatching them ALL in one huge Lost marathon some day. Hopefully it'll make a bit more sense then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 4, 2008 Share Posted March 4, 2008 I've just read my post again and it sounds like i'm calling you an &rse, i wasnt, so sorry if it came accross like that, i meant it as: "&rse - i now know the ending :(" Ah, fair enough then mate. I read it as if you were having a pop. Thanks for clarifying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben1985 Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Well I'm saving the whole lot and fully intend rewatching them ALL in one huge Lost marathon some day. Hopefully it'll make a bit more sense then. Yea I think that will be the test. If they try to explain it all, then you need to go back to episode 1, watch them all and see if the things that didn't make sense, make sense now. However, if this all revolves around time, how can that explain the black smoke? Also, when Daniel did the test on the rat it didn't actually go forward in time he said something like "his consciousness" went forward. It is all very confusing really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 Wouldnt that mean that days would be shorter etc, i think that would be the case and there hasnt been any mention of really fast sunrises and sunsets Not according to the time loop theory, only a domed area around the island is in the different time, the sky is obviously outside this area so would have been unaffected by the time machine. That's why the sun would rise and set even when the island was looping through the same 108 minutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SILKYSMOOTH Posted March 5, 2008 Author Share Posted March 5, 2008 What a brilliant episode that was last sunday, so many more answers and so many more questions. Poor old Desmond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 remember when Walt and his dad tried to sail away and they couldnt get away from the island, it was like its on its own little planet?! From the dock at the end of season 2 when they left, that 'other' told them they have to go on a bearing of 325 to get off the island, I thought then there must be some kind of controlled barrier that the others know how to get through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 5, 2008 Share Posted March 5, 2008 From the dock at the end of season 2 when they left, that 'other' told them they have to go on a bearing of 325 to get off the island, I thought then there must be some kind of controlled barrier that the others know how to get through. That raises the question then whether you would just keep sailing and never get away or whether something bad would happen if you dont go on a certain bearing. hum, one suggests time travel is the issue and the other says time travel isnt anything to do wit why the island is so mysterious and seems to be "magic" (if you will ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dane_stone Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 A friend said the othere day that Jack and Clair are half brother and sister (Not sure if true can't remember). It seems that one way or the othere there all connected somehow to atleast one person. Is this why Jack didn't want to see Arron in the future? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 A friend said the othere day that Jack and Clair are half brother and sister (Not sure if true can't remember). It seems that one way or the othere there all connected somehow to atleast one person. Is this why Jack didn't want to see Arron in the future? if i remember correctly claire is jacks sister as jacks dad is claires dad, i remember the episode just not 100% of the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 I still think it's because of the way Claire dies or something happens that Jack feels guilty about, maybe after he leaves he finds out he's her brother. The main question is: Why the hell don't they ask anyone what's going on!!!!!!!!! If I was there I wouldn't let that Daniel guy do anything without telling me WTF he knows, not torture or anything just hassling him constantly about the time differences with the rocket and the stuff they've heard on the phones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted March 6, 2008 Share Posted March 6, 2008 if i remember correctly claire is jacks sister as jacks dad is claires dad, i remember the episode just not 100% of the details Thats right Claire is unknowingly Jack's half-sister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiceRocket Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Penelope obviously knows the transmission but has not been able to get through due to the islands defence that was in place, so I think her father has something to do with it all. Well done that man Is Charles Widmore the badass man that Ben makes out he is or is Ben concocting another plan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Ep6 didn't really tell us much, we still don't know who's really the bad guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Ep6 didn't really tell us much, we still don't know who's really the bad guys. A poor episode IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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