Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Would these injectors be suitable for my '98 VVTi (Tiptronic)? SARD 700CC INJECTOR FOR TOYOTA SUPRA 2JZ-GTE The seller tells me the injectors are side feed high impedance, twin hole but from doing a quick search on the net I think they might not be. I want to fit them to the standard fuel rail and control them with an eManage or similar. Any thoughts? Seems a good price doesn't it? thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 It might run a bit oddly with only 5 in it.... :-) BTW, what's happening about this PAS pump, do you still want it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 Only 5? What do you mean? Damn, yes I still want it. I forgot to send the money. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 £330.00 is each, and there's only 5 available. EDIT - whoops, maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Its £330 for a set of 6. Ritch (jdm-inxs) told me they were 'matched' but not flow tested?? Not sure what that means though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Look like top feed to me as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 They are 650cc by the look of it , fine if you only plan on a girly turbo but i thought 'Fat Hand Jake' would go for a big Mumma !!!! Dude :flame Dev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dude Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Look like top feed to me as well Prob not a photo of the actual inj dude , the huy seems to know his stuff Dude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 63500 are top feed SRD 700cc low impedence, suit a few Nissans (incl RB26) and also Mit Evos I believe. No good for us without some other mods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 63500 are top feed SRD 700cc low impedence Yeah, that's what I found when I did a search on the net. However, like Dude said, maybe it's not a picture of the actual injectors. I still need to know if these will work in a VVTi. Some of the ones I've seen on the web say they're only suitable for use with non VVTi engines. Do VVTi Supras need different injectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 It's a no from me (they won't fit) but I'm always happy to be corrected by someone more knowledgable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I was looking at these as well... will they work ok with hybrids? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 The PE 650's fit the VVTi...why shouldn't these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 All the side feed injectors that fit a normal Jspec supe will go into a VVTi as long as they are hi-imp, although you could also use a resistor pack and also use UK/US. I have no 1st hand knowlege on the Sard injectors so I can't coment until I'm sure. At the end of the day you can pretty much use any injector you want as long as you have the Hardware to go with it ...ECU ect . But if you want these to be drop in and going by the pic then no these wont fit a VVTi unless you change the rail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 if you want these to be drop in and going by the pic then no these wont fit a VVTi unless you change the rail. Why not, Mig? The VVTi has a different fuel rail to UK and J-Spec does it? What's the apparent difference in the fitment between these Sard ones and the PE ones that Terry/Alex use? (Apart from £300 ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandan Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Top feed vs side feed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Like I say I have no knowlege of the Sard ones. But going by the pic they look like top feed. If they are they WILL not fit. Jspec, Uk , VVTI rais are all the same and side feed. If these are side feed and he has got the pic wrong then you are on a winner.. Sorry also just read your quote saying they are side feed so if they are you will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 Oh I see! You were on about the top feed thing! I'm currently going on the assumption that they are HighImp/SideFeed until he replies to my latest email. He definitely said they are High/Side ones. I only want them if I don't have to change the rail or fit a resistor pack, that's just extra money for no beneft as far as I can tell. Or am I missing something? (I realise I need something to control them, eManage etc) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 With every over size injector you will need some sort of fuel control. Resistors packs just open up more choice if the size you want is not available in direct hi imp ie if you wanted to use Uk injectors or even go top feed. Most top feed will be low imp although there is a growing number of top feed hi imp injectors available now. For reference On side feed they will be 4 part partitioned filtered input with a 4 point nozle. that gives you an idea ...I'm not pluggin at all but here is a pic to give you a ref point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 On side feed they will be 4 part partitioned filtered input with a 4 point nozle. that gives you an idea ...I'm not pluggin at all but here is a pic to give you a ref pont. 4 part partitioned filtered input with a 4 point nozle. Sorry mate, that means nothing to me The seller said these Sard ones are "twin hole", is that suitable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Jake, I'll be interested in what reply you get as I'm looking for some replacement injectors too (probably will use e-manage to control them). I've asked Ritch to confirm exactly what it is he is selling and what they are suitable for. Some time ago I asked Ritch some questions about an FMIC he had for sale and it turned out he gave me completely the wrong information (nearly lost out by £500+ as he said his was a 3-row FMIC - turned out it was one of the small "budget" 2-row intercoolers with non-polished pipe work and with none of the ancillary parts) Be careful ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stt Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 Would I just muller things right up if I asked whats the difference between hi imp and low imp and whats with the need of a resistor?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 I'm in the dark same as you on these until I make a call . But does he mean 2 point nozle as in the spray end? or on the input side. This can all affect the time it takes for fuel to get through an injector and the nozle can greatly affect the spary pattern. At the end of the day you want he best possible spray pattern on an injector as well as flow as you can get. I really cannot coment on these injectors As I have never used Sard appart from uprated service items like filters and the like. As far as I can tell they are a good products but cant say for sure on the injectors until I do a bit of diging and try for myself. I very much doubt it will be 2 port feed as the 4 post is sorta standard. It may will be 2 port nozle. The best way as far as i can tell is bite the bullet and try it will either work great or fry a lump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 13, 2005 Author Share Posted January 13, 2005 Loyd (Lloyd?) Yeah, I'll let you know what he says. I also asked if he can do them cheaper for 3 sets (if they are High/Side ones) The best price he offered me for one set was £325 Inc P&P. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Usmann A Posted January 13, 2005 Share Posted January 13, 2005 4 part partitioned filtered input with a 4 point nozle. Jake,I dont know if you were being sarcasic or not, but that just means it takes fuel from 4 points on the side of the injector, and has a 4 hole discharge. Gotta let Mig have his techie hit once in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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