b_have Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 JEREZ TESTING TIMES - WEDNESDAY Pos Driver Team Time Laps 1. Timo Glock, Toyota, 1:19.799, 96* 2. Lewis Hamilton, McLaren-Mercedes, 1:20.099, 73* 3. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 1:20.363, 49 4. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso-Ferrari, 1:20.407, 51 5. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:20.500, 85* 6. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren-Mercedes, 1:20.535, 79* 7. Kamui Kobayashi, Toyota, 1:20.577, 53 8. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1:20.646, 88* 9. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams-Toyota, 1:20.758, 57 10. Adrian Sutil, Force India-Ferrari, 1:21.705, 71 11. Mark Webber, Red Bull-Renault, 1:22.275, 53 12. David Coulthard, Red Bull-Renault, 1:22.581, 54* 13. Nico Hulkenberg, Williams-Toyota, 1:24.023, 65 14. Sebastien Vettel, Toro Rosso-Ferrari, 1:24.873, 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Who put the Supra engine in it then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Nah, must be a chevy v8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Dissapointing times from RBR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BASHTHEBISHOP Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Is button racing again this season? or did he brake down? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 @ Gaz I'm betting it won't be there for long though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 That's promising! I'm glad Half Schumacher finally left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 It's always difficult to tell who has the advantage , it's common practice to sandbag as some of them especially the front runners won't want to reveal what speed they've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 They probably thought he was 'packing' seeing his name on their screens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 It's always difficult to tell who has the advantage , it's common practice to sandbag as some of them especially the front runners won't want to reveal what speed they've got. Nah, last winter ferrari and mclaren were usually best in the tests. Toyota usually sucked haha Why would they hold back anyway, now testing is so limited?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 But Renault McLaren Ferrari and williams ran faster times on Tuesday: 1. Fernando Alonso, Renault, 1:19.503 2. Pedro de la Rosa, McLaren, 1:19.650 3. Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari, 1:19.708 4. Felipe Massa, Ferrari, 1:19.772 5. Nico Rosberg, Williams, 1:19.775 6. Heikki Kovalainen, McLaren, 1:19.780 7. Sebastian Vettel, Toro Rosso, 1:20.305 8. Sebastien Bourdais, Toro Rosso, 1:20.346 9. Mark Webber, Red Bull, 1:20.392 10. Kazuki Nakajima, Williams, 1:20.525 11. Timo Glock, Toyota, 1:20.598 12. Giancarlo Fisichella, Force India, 1:20.764 13. Kamui Kobayashi, Toyota, 1:22.060 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Isn't Kobayashi a character in Usual Suspects or something?! It'd be nice to see Toyota do well, but I'll always be a Williams fan. Bring back the early 90's cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Nah, last winter ferrari and mclaren were usually best in the tests. Toyota usually sucked haha Why would they hold back anyway, now testing is so limited?! They still do it to some extent, if you follow F1 intently like I do you'll know that it's mentioned frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Lets hope that Spanish tw-t loses some of his pace please, nothing better than see him fall flat on his face:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 They still do it to some extent, if you follow F1 intently like I do you'll know that it's mentioned frequently. LOL not true I'm afraid. (Sandbagging, not your F1 following ) Every team is trying to put in the fastest times possible all the time. What is often perceived as "sandbagging" during tests is that you have to test at various fuel loads. Sometimes you test with a full fuel load, and sometimes with a minimum fuel load. Often teams that are shall we say underperforming will take all the fuel out of the car, and then take some of the ballast out too, and run the car underweight in order to post a quick time in the hope to attract sponsership. Then quelle surprise they end up at the back of the grid come qualifying in Melbourne. Usually the most representative thing to look at is the average between the drivers. The track was at it's worst today. Very wet overnight and cold during the morning so didn't really dry out till the afternoon, so if you put a good time in yesterday, you'd have struggled to beat it today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 The times mean nothing for now, wait until February for proper times. Only half the teams have launched their 2008 cars. All the cars are running different schedules, in LATE Feb things should settle down. Also, the track has been wet everyday this week. The teams move to Valencia for next week and the new Williams FW30 is first out the door for releases. Force India and Torro Rosso will be using last years car with new bits bolted on for 2008. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Isn't Kobayashi a character in Usual Suspects or something?! Yeah - played by Pete Postlethwaite(sp) Keyser Soze! What a movie! 'The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 16, 2008 Share Posted January 16, 2008 Yeah - played by Pete Postlethwaite(sp) Keyser Soze! What a movie! 'The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist' So long as I was right, and not going mad, all is right with the world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted January 17, 2008 Share Posted January 17, 2008 LOL not true I'm afraid. (Sandbagging, not your F1 following ) Every team is trying to put in the fastest times possible all the time. What is often perceived as "sandbagging" during tests is that you have to test at various fuel loads. That's exactly what I meant. I know they can't deliberatly go slower as this is very difficult to do this consistently not to mention the fact that it's easily picked up by other teams who monitor such things such as max engine rpm using fancy gadgets. It's still known as "sandbagging". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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