Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 oh what did everyone do in the days before these spaces? how did we cope? If anything i think these bays should be 'single parent' only bays. Couples have options, there's the do as those precious about their cars do and thats park far away in an empty area. No worries about door bumping and if you come back to the car and someone has parked next to you then you can pull forward or move elsewhere breifly to load up junior. there's the drop off option mum/dad drops of mum/dad & kids at a convenient point and goes to park the car (you may even be missing a trick here as you could have a read of the paper and miss the whole of the fruit and veg part of the shop) then pops and gets the car again after the shop (again you could miss the checkout queueing this way) How about the kids stay at home with one parent and the other goes shopping!? I don't see why shopping should necessarily be a family outing, can't see the kids being over the moon being dragged along every week....... Get a life. You just seem to be picking fault/issues for the sake of it. Obviously the examples you specify sometimes occur, but there is still a need for parents spaces (not single parent only spaces). Its as simple as this 1) Only disabled people should park in disabled spaces 2) Only parents with kids with them at the time should park in parents spaces (and the police if they are about to arrest a thieving little oiik.) 3) If you have a fancy car, like we all have on this forum, and you dont want it bashed, then either bring a kid shopping with you and park it in the parents spaces OR park at the back of the car park over 2 spaces (as long as there are loads of spaces available and you arnt going to be a long time, i dont see a problem with this) Rant over, im off to bath the kids now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Get a life. You just seem to be picking fault/issues for the sake of it. Obviously the examples you specify sometimes occur, but there is still a need for parents spaces (not single parent only spaces). Its as simple as this 1) Only disabled people should park in disabled spaces 2) Only parents with kids with them at the time should park in parents spaces (and the police if they are about to arrest a thieving little oiik.) 3) If you have a fancy car, like we all have on this forum, and you dont want it bashed, then either bring a kid shopping with you and park it in the parents spaces OR park at the back of the car park over 2 spaces (as long as there are loads of spaces available and you arnt going to be a long time, i dont see a problem with this) Rant over, im off to bath the kids now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 1) Only disabled people should park in disabled spaces 2) Only parents with kids with them at the time should park in parents spaces (and the police if they are about to arrest a thieving little oiik.) Maybe it's because I'm a parent, but would it not make sense to merge disable and parent/kid spaces? Our wonderful new Farm Foods in Pitsea has a row of 12 disabled bays and I've never seen more then 2 or 3 used, and a couple of them I was dubious about.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Maybe it's because I'm a parent, but would it not make sense to merge disable and parent/kid spaces? Our wonderful new Farm Foods in Pitsea has a row of 12 disabled bays and I've never seen more then 2 or 3 used, and a couple of them I was dubious about.. Not a great idea as at busy times I normally have to battle for a parent & kid space. There'd be no spaces for those that are movement impaired if they were combined....... The spaces would be full of the parents & kids and BMW & 4x4 drivers (who of course would feel much less guilty as they are 'only' occupying a parent & child space LOL). Better that they are seperate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Get a life. You just seem to be picking fault/issues for the sake of it. Obviously the examples you specify sometimes occur, but there is still a need for parents spaces (not single parent only spaces). Its as simple as this 1) Only disabled people should park in disabled spaces 2) Only parents with kids with them at the time should park in parents spaces (and the police if they are about to arrest a thieving little oiik.) 3) If you have a fancy car, like we all have on this forum, and you dont want it bashed, then either bring a kid shopping with you and park it in the parents spaces OR park at the back of the car park over 2 spaces (as long as there are loads of spaces available and you arnt going to be a long time, i dont see a problem with this) Rant over, im off to bath the kids now. Gotta disagree with you. All of our parents coped perfectly well without these spaces, why can't parents of today? Most of these spaces are empty anyway, so I see no issues in non-parent people using them. I personally won't use them, but if I saw someone without kids pulling into one, I would think to myself "fair plays that guy". Also, my mum will happily park in them if I'm with her. I'm her child afterall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Also, my mum will happily park in them if I'm with her. I'm her child afterall. Do you have to crouch down as they normally say small children and the sign the kids is half the adults size.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Gotta disagree with you. All of our parents coped perfectly well without these spaces, why can't parents of today? People have coped with loads of things - working down mines at 14, sending young kids up chimneys. Just because people coped in the past doesn't mean changes / improvements shouldn't be made. Does it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Do you have to crouch down as they normally say small children and the sign the kids is half the adults size.. I've never read the small print, but the big signs say "Parent and Child parking bays". My mum's my parent, I'm her child. I would honestly argue that if some Asda parking person questioned it. People have coped with loads of things - working down mines at 14, sending young kids up chimneys. Just because people coped in the past doesn't mean changes / improvements shouldn't be made. Does it? I agree and welcome changes for the better, but I personally don't agree with the justification for having these parking spots. The argument of needing more space to get the kids out is easily overcome. I do it in the Supra, as do most people on here it seems. Park at the other end of the car park, and problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 People have coped with loads of things - working down mines at 14, sending young kids up chimneys. Just because people coped in the past doesn't mean changes / improvements shouldn't be made. Does it? Yep, i agree, things are so different now. The amount of people and also cars is so much more than before. Things change its as simple as that. Im (only) 32, and i remember when most of the shopping was done in local shops and many people didnt even have cars (i am from oop north, so maybe thats why). The butcher and greengrocers had their own van and used to drive around the streets, so hardly anyone traveled like we all do now. Finally (according to ASDA, a child has to be under 6 for the space to be able to be used). Just because you are your mums child doesnt make it right. Im hard pushed to name a greengrocers round here now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I've never read the small print, but the big signs say "Parent and Child parking bays". My mum's my parent, I'm her child. I would honestly argue that if some Asda parking person questioned it. QUOTE] The small print says a child under 6years !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The small print says a child under 6years !! So what's the difference between a parent with a 6 year old and a parent with a 7 year old?! If they put such restrictions on it, why even bother? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Get a life. You just seem to be picking fault/issues for the sake of it. Obviously the examples you specify sometimes occur, but there is still a need for parents spaces (not single parent only spaces). Ok so what if you, the wife and kids turn up to shop and all the spaces are full (with legitimate users)? As the kids are already with you, my leave them at home option is not practical, so I suspect you'd do one of the two other scenarios i mentioned, either drop them off and park, or park in a bay with spaces either side? Its not ideal but its 'ok' Single parents (that includes say just you, or just your wife and the kids on a shopping trip) can't do the drop off method and cannot 'pull forward or move elsewhere briefly to load up junior' if they return to their car to find cars parked either side of it. They IMO have a greater need for these spaces than the whole family........that was/is my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 So what's the difference between a parent with a 6 year old and a parent with a 7 year old?! If they put such restrictions on it, why even bother? i presume its because at that age they are pretty much like a normal passenger (bar a booster seat/cushion) and can get in and out of the car unaided........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ok so what if you, the wife and kids turn up to shop and all the spaces are full (with legitimate users)? As the kids are already with you, my leave them at home option is not practical, so I suspect you'd do one of the two other scenarios i mentioned, either drop them off and park, or park in a bay with spaces either side? Its not ideal but its 'ok' Single parents (that includes say just you, or just your wife and the kids on a shopping trip) can't do the drop off method and cannot 'pull forward or move elsewhere briefly to load up junior' if they return to their car to find cars parked either side of it. They IMO have a greater need for these spaces than the whole family........that was/is my point. As before, stop picking fault/issues. Thats life, if all the spaces are full you have to use other ones obviously,and as a parent i can confirm its not ideal. Smaller spaces (and 3 kids, 2 of them too young to walk) mean that you have to leave one of them in the trolley whilst you put the other in the car. Some trolleys nowadays dont even have brakes on them so you are expected to leave your child to chance in the roadway area without a brake (its a nightmare) Stop picking, if they are full parents use other spaces but it causes problems !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 So what's the difference between a parent with a 6 year old and a parent with a 7 year old?! If they put such restrictions on it, why even bother? This is the same with any law, a line has to be drawn somewhere. Whats a drink a 17 rather than 18Yrs Whats sex at 15 rather than 16yrs Whats driving at 15 rather than 16yrs etc. I suppose 6 is the age they chose for a child to be able to suitably walk and manage themselves well enough not to require a parents space close to the store. Im guessing thats the answer but dont have the definative one,. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 i presume its because at that age they are pretty much like a normal passenger (bar a booster seat/cushion) and can get in and out of the car unaided........... This is the same with any law, a line has to be drawn somewhere. Whats a drink a 17 rather than 18Yrs Whats sex at 15 rather than 16yrs Whats driving at 15 rather than 16yrs etc. I suppose 6 is the age they chose for a child to be able to suitably walk and manage themselves well enough not to require a parents space close to the store. Im guessing thats the answer but dont have the definative one,. That makes sense. One day if I have kids of my own, I'll probably appreciate them, but they do annoy me. If normal spaces were just a foot wider than they are, there would be no issue with the spaces being too narrow. As far as I can tell, the designers want as many cars as possible in the car park, so make the spaces narrow. This throws up an issue with those with young children, so they get special dispensation. I just don't see why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 That makes sense. One day if I have kids of my own, I'll probably appreciate them, but they do annoy me. . You dont have to be a non-parent for kids to annoy you. Try bedtime with 3 kids, you need the patience of a saint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Smaller spaces (and 3 kids, 2 of them too young to walk) mean that you have to leave one of them in the trolley whilst you put the other in the car. Some trolleys nowadays dont even have brakes on them so you are expected to leave your child to chance in the roadway area without a brake (its a nightmare) I don't doubt that was a nightmare in fact i KNOW its a nightmare, its just more of a nightmare for one parent than two isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 You dont have to be a non-parent for kids to annoy you. Try bedtime with 3 kids, you need the patience of a saint. I meant the special parking spaces annoy me, not the kids Unless you got that and I failed to see the humour? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackie Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 i parked in tescos child bay yesterday with my two boys, aged 9 and 11, when i came out there was a notice on my car saying its for childeren aged 5 or under wtf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 This throws up an issue with those with young children, so they get special dispensation. I just don't see why. Borrow my 2 & 6 year olds on a busy shopping day. You'll soon find out why..... and probably: 1) Have no hair left 2) Be horse through shouting 3) Need tranquilisers 4) Have started a major search for at least one missing child last seen using the checkout conveyor belt as a treadmill I don't do shopping, period!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 You dont have to be a non-parent for kids to annoy you. Try bedtime with 3 kids, you need the patience of a saint. Is that the bedtime that lasts from 1900 hours to 0200 the next morning?? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juanchan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Borrow my 2 & 6 year olds on a busy shopping day. You'll soon find out why..... and probably: 1) Have no hair left 2) Be horse through shouting 3) Need tranquilisers 4) Have started a major search for at least one missing child last seen using the checkout conveyor belt as a treadmill I don't do shopping, period!! True. But if normal spaces were each a bit bigger, and I parked a little bit further from the shop, how would the experience be different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 True. But if normal spaces were each a bit bigger, and I parked a little bit further from the shop, how would the experience be different? Losing both kids between car and shop entrance rather than just the one LOL I dunno, it does make life much easier the closer you are.... less time for tantrums/shoes to fall off/jumping in puddles/getting reversed over..... the list is endless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 2) Be horse through shouting If it gives you added length and girth then maybe it's worth the pain!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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