Dave Haggas Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Good points and some good views. Ref point 1,What if its raining?(I know you will get wet,but why should I ?) Point 2,Why shouldnt one drive what one wants to drive?It is a very good point and indeed I have done such a thing.It was good to park and not worry about any scrapes or dings.But it is a sad state of affairs when you cannot do what you are entitled to do because of uncareful people dont you think? Point 3,this is another thing I do!But I wont do it close to the shop entrance. I do find also that people cant cope on their own.If I take out my Prowler for example,I will park as far away as possible so that it doesnt get damaged.Come back 30 mins later someone will have parked right next to it.This happens even if the rest of the car park is empty.Why is this? All above comments are ref to Mike Macs post BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Done!! I may be wrong but I think that thread was originally twice the size of what it is now??? I seem to remember Darren(Pneumoni) begging Jake to remove his girls pic from his Avatar - Jake humorously refusing. Then the girl reading the whole thread and dumping Darren cus she thought he was starnge. Then accusations of Darren making the whole thing up??? I can't remember if that's right, it was a good read at the time but can't be arsed to re-read the thing again.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 After reading this thread I am appalled that some people can justify parking in the "wrong" space. You are either lazy, ignorant or both!! It is also not up to you to judge who else should park there or whether they are entitled to a disabled badge.... Sorting the problem must start by asking yourself if you are right or wrong in what you are doing.......if you yourself are doing it for the wrong reasons then what hope has anyone got of solving the issue!! Don't get me wrong, I have done it in the past but I know that I was wrong in doing so. I also have solved the problem by taking my dad everywhere with me..... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 There are plenty of things you could do to avoid scuffs and scratches before taking up a space put there for less able people: 1 - Park at the other end of the car-park and walk 100-200m. I'm sure that as a 30 year old 'fit?' man you're quite able to use those things that hang off your arse called legs? 2 - Get a runaround car. It doesn't matter if it gets dinged, dented etc, will probably save you money and, let's face it, can fit a whole lot more in the boot and the back. 3 - If you really, really have to then double park on the regular spaces. There's far more of them, so your chances of inconveniencing (able-bodied) people is far less. ETA: I am not disabled and I don't have a family, so am not biased in all this Here Here. Park at the end of the car park and walk. Park over 2 spaces if you have to (i do this but only at the back of the car park and only if its very empty. If it so much as seems like its filling up i go home. Its my inconvienience for being so picky about my car. Yes peop,e should be more carfull of banging into you but their not. They are lazy, and couldnt care less, so park at the back. I also, have 3 kids (but am not disabled), and when i do go shopping in the other car (zafira) with the kids there is nothing more anoying that someone with no kids in the kids bay. I get out of the car and make them move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Haggas Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Here Here. Park at the end of the car park and walk. Park over 2 spaces if you have to (i do this but only at the back of the car park and only if its very empty. If it so much as seems like its filling up i go home. Its my inconvienience for being so picky about my car. Yes peop,e should be more carfull of banging into you but their not. They are lazy, and couldnt care less, so park at the back. I also, have 3 kids (but am not disabled), and when i do go shopping in the other car (zafira) with the kids there is nothing more anoying that someone with no kids in the kids bay. I get out of the car and make them move. What if the alledged offender told you his wife and offspring were in the shop?If he was genuine,would you be upset if he told you to go *uck yourself? Not trying to cause an upset but it is quite possible dont you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Mac Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ref point 1,What if its raining?(I know you will get wet,but why should I ?) I'm pretty sure you don't mean parking in a disabled space just to stay dry? Wear a W/P jacket. Point 2,Why shouldnt one drive what one wants to drive?It is a very good point and indeed I have done such a thing.It was good to park and not worry about any scrapes or dings.But it is a sad state of affairs when you cannot do what you are entitled to do because of uncareful people dont you think?Yes it is. That still doesn't give someone the moral right to park in a disabled/family bay. Unfortunately the world has plenty of nuggets in it and all you can do is try and minimise the risk to your property, without seeing-off someone else. Point 3,this is another thing I do!But I wont do it close to the shop entrance.Fair enough. I do find also that people cant cope on their own.If I take out my Prowler for example,I will park as far away as possible so that it doesnt get damaged.Come back 30 mins later someone will have parked right next to it.This happens even if the rest of the car park is empty.Why is this?? Good question! My wife finds it very funny how much that winds me up with the Supe. I see the points you're making, but what it boils down to is that the issues raised affect everyone, so why should one person's selfish need allow them to deny facilities to the disabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRalphMan Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I have NOT read all this thread but.......... All those who park in bays NOT assigned to them IE mum and baby and disabled SHOULD BE KILLED. f..ing drives me nuts seeing Mr BMW or MERC driver thinking I'm above parking away from the store or getting my car to close to OTHER lower cars so I'm going to park here........Then I come along with my kid and pram and shit and there is no space for ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If I had not owned a pride and joy, my door keys would be doing overtime on their bonnets..over Rock on Dave, totally agree... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Haggas Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Just to clear one thing from me . I have never and would never(unless entitled) park in a disabled space. I would park in a parents space.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Brett Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 What if the alledged offender told you his wife and offspring were in the shop?If he was genuine,would you be upset if he told you to go *uck yourself? Not trying to cause an upset but it is quite possible dont you think? Sorry, my last post didnt explain myself well enough (too many kids running round me). If i see people with no kids pulling in, i will challenge them. If they are already there, i wont for the reasons you mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Come back 30 mins later someone will have parked right next to it.This happens even if the rest of the car park is empty.Why is this? Simple really. The person who parks next to you doesn't want their car damaged, so they park at the far end of the car park (with you). They see your car, reckon that you are carefull so will not hit their car with your door. So, they park next to you with no worries. As for parking in parents spaces, that's just plain selfish. The problem is, parking spaces in most car parks just aren't big enough to allow car doors to open fully. Blame the w*****rs who design the car park layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The police seem to use the disabled spaces at my local Asda when they go in to collect a shoplifter or a late night snack - someone actually wrote to the local paper about it and the police replied to say they used those spaces to save time so they could get back to fighting crime as quickly as possible. They used to have talking disabled spaces that detected a car parking and shouted "this space is for disabled drivers only" or something like that - quite effective as it makes everyone look at who has parked there. Possibly quite embarrassing for real disabled people though, hence they are gone now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Haggas Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Simple really. The person who parks next to you doesn't want their car damaged, so they park at the far end of the car park (with you). They see your car, reckon that you are carefull so will not hit their car with your door. So, they park next to you with no worries. As for parking in parents spaces, that's just plain selfish. The problem is, parking spaces in most car parks just aren't big enough to allow car doors to open fully. Blame the w*****rs who design the car park layout. Sounds fair to me with the exception of being selfish for parking in a parents space! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 They used to have talking disabled spaces that detected a car parking and shouted "this space is for disabled drivers only" or something like that - quite effective as it makes everyone look at who has parked there. Possibly quite embarrassing for real disabled people though, hence they are gone now. How did they tell if you were disabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Haggas Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 How did they tell if you were disabled? I assumed it went off when a vehicle entered the spot....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 How did they tell if you were disabled? They didn't, they just shouted at anything that parked on top of them - I liked them, they were my friends... now they are gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Sounds fair to me with the exception of being selfish for parking in a parents space! If you've you've ever tried to load or unload a baby or young child into a car, you'd know that you can only really do it with the door wide open. Normal spaces don't allow this (too narrow) consequently cars get damaged as doors get opened as wide as possible (against the next car?). Wider spaces have been provided, so alleviating this problem. You come along, park in one of these spaces, potentiall forcing Mrs + 2 kids to park in a normal (narrow) space. The cars on either side of hers potentially get damaged. So, you're alright and everyone else can go **** themselves. That sounds like a pretty good definition of selfish to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 They didn't, they just shouted at anything that parked on top of them - I liked them, they were my friends... now they are gone LOL. I parked over two bays yesterday and my Daughter told me my parking was crap, that was untill I opened my drivers door and she gasped "Oh my god mum I thought you was going to hit the car next to you" And that my dear was exactly why my parking is crap. She soon shut up after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I assumed it went off when a vehicle entered the spot....? Exactly, that's what I was trying to differentiate - how did it determine whether the person was disabled, I'm sure it didn't which means it's a bit silly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 she gasped "Oh my god mum I thought you was going to hit the car next to you" I hope you reprimanded her for her abuse of the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keancy Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 I hope you reprimanded her for her abuse of the English language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 The police seem to use the disabled spaces at my local Asda when they go in to collect a shoplifter or a late night snack - someone actually wrote to the local paper about it and the police replied to say they used those spaces to save time so they could get back to fighting crime as quickly as possible. They used to have talking disabled spaces that detected a car parking and shouted "this space is for disabled drivers only" or something like that - quite effective as it makes everyone look at who has parked there. Possibly quite embarrassing for real disabled people though, hence they are gone now. Yes, this does happen.... especially if the shoplifter/purse thief/drunk psycho rampaging in the shop is not exactly being compliant with the staff. You don't really want to be dragging a biting, kicking and snarling DP across the entire car park who will likely kick out at all cars and members of the public they pass Also while inside even dealing with old Mrs Miggins who absent mindedly forgot to pay for her cucumber, an emergency call will undoubtedly come in that is time critical (i.e. colleague calling for assistance while getting the s*it kicked out of them). You don't want to be wasting valuable time running across a huge car park. IMHO I think emergency services on duty have a valid reason for bending the rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 Yes, this does happen.... especially if the shoplifter/purse thief/drunk psycho rampaging in the shop is not exactly being compliant with the staff. You don't really want to be dragging a biting, kicking and snarling DP across the entire car park who will likely kick out at all cars and members of the public they pass Balls, I think it would make for an entertaining afternoon while I sit in the car playing on the PSP waiting for the mrs to spend all my hard earned on face creams and tampons. Also while inside even dealing with old Mrs Miggins who absent mindedly forgot to pay for her cucumber, She should be locked up, along with all other old people an emergency call will undoubtedly come in that is time critical (i.e. colleague calling for assistance while getting the s*it kicked out of them). You don't want to be wasting valuable time running across a huge car park. O RLY? Depends who the colleague is really.... IMHO I think emergency services on duty have a valid reason for bending the rules. Yup....they just can't be arsed, and contratrary to what you probably think, I'm all for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 If you've you've ever tried to load or unload a baby or young child into a car, you'd know that you can only really do it with the door wide open. Normal spaces don't allow this (too narrow) consequently cars get damaged as doors get opened as wide as possible (against the next car?). Wider spaces have been provided, so alleviating this problem. You come along, park in one of these spaces, potentiall forcing Mrs + 2 kids to park in a normal (narrow) space. The cars on either side of hers potentially get damaged. So, you're alright and everyone else can go **** themselves. That sounds like a pretty good definition of selfish to me. oh what did everyone do in the days before these spaces? how did we cope? If anything i think these bays should be 'single parent' only bays. Couples have options, there's the do as those precious about their cars do and thats park far away in an empty area. No worries about door bumping and if you come back to the car and someone has parked next to you then you can pull forward or move elsewhere breifly to load up junior. there's the drop off option mum/dad drops of mum/dad & kids at a convenient point and goes to park the car (you may even be missing a trick here as you could have a read of the paper and miss the whole of the fruit and veg part of the shop) then pops and gets the car again after the shop (again you could miss the checkout queueing this way) How about the kids stay at home with one parent and the other goes shopping!? I don't see why shopping should necessarily be a family outing, can't see the kids being over the moon being dragged along every week....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 oh what did everyone do in the days before these spaces? how did we cope? Couples have options, there's the do as those precious about their cars do and thats park far away in an empty area. No worries about door bumping and if you come back to the car and someone has parked next to you then you can pull forward or move elsewhere breifly to load up junior. there's the drop off option mum/dad drops of mum/dad & kids at a convenient point and goes to park the car (you may even be missing a trick here as you could have a read of the paper and miss the whole of the fruit and veg part of the shop) then pops and gets the car again after the shop (again you could miss the checkout queueing this way) How about the kids stay at home with one parent and the other goes shopping!? I don't see why shopping should necessarily be a family outing, can't see the kids being over the moon being dragged along every week....... Before big spaces, people struggled, and bashed doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted January 13, 2008 Share Posted January 13, 2008 oh what did everyone do in the days before these spaces? how did we cope? Probably walked to a local butcher, baker, fruit market and so on... Walk into any supermarket and compare how busy the ready meal section is compared to the fruit and veg one... that's progress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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