Conrad Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I'm trying to make up an ethernet cable to link a PC to a router. I've connected the RJ45 to the data cable but it won't fit into the ethernet socket on my router. I've gathered that you have to somehow push down the copper connecters inside the RJ45 onto the wires but how do I do it? I've tried pliers but this only gets them so far in. I can now get the RJ45 into my router but I fear I may have damaged the ethernet socket... Anyone know what I'm on about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Your router, are you sure you aren't trying to get an RJ45 into an RJ11 socket.... A proper crimp has 8 sets of teeth which push the connectors into the copper, really can't be done with pliers... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 You need the crimps. No ther alternative im affraid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 http://images.tigerdirect.com/skuimages/large/C184-8020-main.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 http://www.germes-online.com/direct/dbimage/50316123/RJ45_RJ11_Network__Tools.jpg spooky! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I like yours better, the handles look comfier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 On my last contract, I watched the guys put 15000 RJ45 crimps on, and wire up 20000 Cat 6 sockets, boy did I not envy them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted December 31, 2007 Author Share Posted December 31, 2007 Ahh - cheers guys. No I have got the correct RJ45 socket, I just knew I had done something wrong. I got the copper connecters pushed down enough to plug the cable in, but I could tell something wasn't right. I'll have to get some proper 8 pin crimps then. Trouble is I think I've already ruined one router, luckily I have a spare. But my nice new Dell PC doesn't have a spare Ethernet socket and I think I've damaged it! Amateur! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 I prefer the orange ones, it may be the angle of the picture but they look more sturdy, but yeah, the grips look comfier on the blue ones. I guess it comes down to colour preference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 31, 2007 Share Posted December 31, 2007 There is an old trick we used to use on the S110 patch frames. Get an old store card and push it into the little track and then put some weight on it, it does somethings push it into the connector. or a very fine pointed flatscrewdriver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Instead of paying a fortune for a crimp tool, why not just buy a ready made cable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Instead of paying a fortune for a crimp tool, why not just buy a ready made cable? I've had to run the cable 30 metres from my house to our office in our extension. Tried every wireless router known to man but not enough range.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I've had to run the cable 30 metres from my house to our office in our extension. Tried every wireless router known to man but not enough range.... Have you tried getting a proper directional aerial rather than the omni units they all ship with. Maplins do some directional units which will give you your range. http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?MenuNo=12216&MenuName=Wireless+Network+Antenna&worldid=4&FromMenu=y&doy=1m1 Use something like that with a http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=43503&doy=1m1 on the other end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Why DO these wireless routers have such little range? Can't you put an RF amplifier on them and run a kilowatt or two and pick the signal up 100 miles away or something? Pete reckons these over the house mains systems are better, anyone using one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted January 1, 2008 Author Share Posted January 1, 2008 Have you tried getting a proper directional aerial rather than the omni units they all ship with. Maplins do some directional units which will give you your range. http://www.maplin.co.uk/search.aspx?MenuNo=12216&MenuName=Wireless+Network+Antenna&worldid=4&FromMenu=y&doy=1m1 Use something like that with a http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?TabID=1&ModuleNo=43503&doy=1m1 on the other end. To be honest dude I never, I should've asked on here first I guess for any advice. I was just at the mercy of PC World, I tried their most powerful routers costing £150 quid and I also tried those range extenders. But all no good. I've already bought and installed all the cable now anyway, just need to get the RJ45's on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Why DO these wireless routers have such little range? You can buy different antennas etc to increase the range or for specific point to point applications. The main reason the range is so poor is likely to be down to crappy EU laws about frequencies they can operate on and strength of signal. This is why the US and EU BIOS for routers vary. Basically wireless performance is affected by all sorts of things in your house, pipes, water, electrical fields, yourself, wall thickness, material, neighbours running on a similar channel etc. The latest routers claim to have 10x more range, I've not tried one personally yet, but I may well be doing soon as I become increasingly infuriated with my old one varying in strength from day to day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Thanks Pete, how's Italy? (It was Italy you were off to, wasn't it?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 Thanks Pete, how's Italy? (It was Italy you were off to, wasn't it?) Rome was fabulous. See here - http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showthread.php?t=135647&highlight=rome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted January 1, 2008 Share Posted January 1, 2008 I just would like to add that wires HAVE to be put in PROPER order, otherwise your connection will not work or work very slow. 2 standards - T-568A and T-568B. http://yoda.uvi.edu/InfoTech/rj45.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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